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I'm not disagreeing, but trying to turn this forum into a support line is a little selfish. Complete with the "aww but I'm a mommy" and "I talk to dead people"

by pluc 5y ago

I'm not disagreeing, but trying to turn this forum into a support line is a little selfish. Complete with the "aww but I'm a mommy" and "I talk to dead people" and oh hey maybe one of you hacker types might work at Facebook per chance? please. You know who doesn't get help from HN for Facebook problems? EVERYONE ELSE

criddell 5y ago
You sound kind of bitter. Just because we can't help everybody doesn't mean we shouldn't help anybody. This person posted, it gained traction which means the community here is interested.
- pluc 5y ago
  Think about what this place would be if more people would use it like OP does. Why help OP and not <random person who posted for help but never got answers>? Why not help everyone who asks for help? This isn't Stack Overflow.
  - andybak 5y ago
    Can I hear the distant sound of Marley's Ghost rattling his chains? Merry Xmas. :-)
  - criddell 5y ago
    > Think about what this place would be if more people would use it like OP does. I don't really think much would change. Most submissions don't get much attention and I doubt that's going to change. Feel free to not vote for Ask HN submissions like this. I voted for this one because I was curious what the community would come up with and I'm not disappointed. > Why not help everyone who asks for help? If that's what you want to do, then do it. Patrol /newest and act quickly because most of the requests for help are going to pop up and scroll away within an hour or so.
  - onecommentman 5y ago
    It would probably be better if there was a posted article on “How to reclaim your online account if a soulless social media company you foolishly trusted arbitrarily and capriciously deletes said account” and the discussion ensued from that. In lieu of such a article, this is a way people would address issues on tech forums back in the days of Usenet, BBSs…back in the days we elders sometime long for. Seems charming in a way…the neighbor knocking on the back door asking for a cup of sugar. Do agree it could get out of hand, but why don’t we wait until the moderators start complaining?
CrzyLngPwd 5y ago
I'm always hopeful of pleasant resolutions to problems and always turn to search engines first - which for my job often comes up with stackoverflow content :-) My hope is that IF this post leads to a helpful resolution then others searching for the same will find it here. Or perhaps by educating our fellow techies we might, collectively, raise the bar so that others in the future don't fall foul of such problems.
- pluc 5y ago
  I don't know how long you've been on the Internet, but if this post leads to a helpful resolution and gets indexed, that's precisely how we end up with a bunch of neophytes asking us how to get their <anything> working again. I get wanting to be kind and empathic and all that, but think about how this impacts the platform. There are better, more appropriate platforms for this, this is not it.
pessimizer 5y ago
> You know who doesn't get help from HN for Facebook problems? EVERYONE ELSE Yeah, most people go to twitter.

by pluc 5y ago

criddell 5y ago

You sound kind of bitter. Just because we can't help everybody doesn't mean we shouldn't help anybody. This person posted, it gained traction which means the community here is interested.

pluc 5y ago
Think about what this place would be if more people would use it like OP does. Why help OP and not <random person who posted for help but never got answers>? Why not help everyone who asks for help? This isn't Stack Overflow.
- andybak 5y ago
  Can I hear the distant sound of Marley's Ghost rattling his chains? Merry Xmas. :-)
- criddell 5y ago
  > Think about what this place would be if more people would use it like OP does. I don't really think much would change. Most submissions don't get much attention and I doubt that's going to change. Feel free to not vote for Ask HN submissions like this. I voted for this one because I was curious what the community would come up with and I'm not disappointed. > Why not help everyone who asks for help? If that's what you want to do, then do it. Patrol /newest and act quickly because most of the requests for help are going to pop up and scroll away within an hour or so.
- onecommentman 5y ago
  It would probably be better if there was a posted article on “How to reclaim your online account if a soulless social media company you foolishly trusted arbitrarily and capriciously deletes said account” and the discussion ensued from that. In lieu of such a article, this is a way people would address issues on tech forums back in the days of Usenet, BBSs…back in the days we elders sometime long for. Seems charming in a way…the neighbor knocking on the back door asking for a cup of sugar. Do agree it could get out of hand, but why don’t we wait until the moderators start complaining?

CrzyLngPwd 5y ago

I'm always hopeful of pleasant resolutions to problems and always turn to search engines first - which for my job often comes up with stackoverflow content :-) My hope is that IF this post leads to a helpful resolution then others searching for the same will find it here. Or perhaps by educating our fellow techies we might, collectively, raise the bar so that others in the future don't fall foul of such problems.

pluc 5y ago
I don't know how long you've been on the Internet, but if this post leads to a helpful resolution and gets indexed, that's precisely how we end up with a bunch of neophytes asking us how to get their <anything> working again. I get wanting to be kind and empathic and all that, but think about how this impacts the platform. There are better, more appropriate platforms for this, this is not it.

pessimizer 5y ago

> You know who doesn't get help from HN for Facebook problems? EVERYONE ELSE Yeah, most people go to twitter.