Me too. Also the frameworks deliver a lot of bloat and dependencies which can be a boomerang. For example I did some pages with bootstrap 3 ... for that I had

Me too. Also the frameworks deliver a lot of bloat and dependencies which can be a boomerang. For example I did some pages with bootstrap 3 ... for that I had to use a module which modifies the html templates of the CMS. Than the CMS got updated several times but the module is not been updated b/c bootstrap 3 is obsolete. But hey the there is a new module for the new cool guy in town BS 4. So you can't update the CMS or you have to rebuild a large part of the website for the sake of updates. That's totally senseless since it has no advantages for my customers. Yes I can sell it with "you must update because of security but hey nothing changes ..." - something what I would absolutely hate if it's done to me. I have my own framework - smaller and it fits my way to work. And yes I understand that this would be a other situation with a team (but then you have a guy without soul, moral and honor which is called "the sales guy" who sales everything).