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In a sence it's also a move towards limiting user's freedom to chose where to store data, isn't it? If that develops further, people will be forbidden to store

In a sence it's also a move towards limiting user's freedom to chose where to store data, isn't it? If that develops further, people will be forbidden to store data outside of their country, so that the data can always be requested by local agencies.

9dev 5y ago
I’d rather be a subject to local agencies than being forced to bow to US legislation, which is just a ridiculous overreach.
- avodonosov 5y ago
  Depends on where you live :)
  - arlcode 5y ago
    Of course. And in some places in the world I definitely would prefer my data being processed far away. But like OP (I assume) I have the privilege to live in a society where, every few years, I have the opportunity to elect our leaders and discussion about laws happens in the public and needs to find a majority in parliament. In the EU my country has a voice and our elected representatives help shape the directives and regulations. While the US is also a democracy, I don't have any influence there at all (which is fine) and my data is foreign and is treated differently than that of US citizens. Furthermore, even if an American company does something blatantly illegal my practical recourses are severely limited by costs and distance (try suing someone in California) I am not ready to accept that when interacting with a local business any data needs to flow across the Atlantic. I really like the idea of having a local independent data handler who operates European infrastructure on behalf of companies like Microsoft did a few years back.
sc11 5y ago
> In a sence it's also a move towards limiting user's freedom to chose where to store data, isn't it? It's not, users can of course consent to data being stored elsewhere. The article explicitely points this out: > Instead, the court took the approach that data could only be lawfully transferred to the U.S. via a mutual legal assistance treaty (Article 48 GDPR), or under Article 49 GDPR’s derogations, such as consent. It confined its lawfulness analysis to those grounds alone.
pelorat 5y ago
NZ already has a law for this.
- avodonosov 5y ago
  Really? Too bad :(

9dev 5y ago

I’d rather be a subject to local agencies than being forced to bow to US legislation, which is just a ridiculous overreach.

avodonosov 5y ago
Depends on where you live :)
- arlcode 5y ago
  Of course. And in some places in the world I definitely would prefer my data being processed far away. But like OP (I assume) I have the privilege to live in a society where, every few years, I have the opportunity to elect our leaders and discussion about laws happens in the public and needs to find a majority in parliament. In the EU my country has a voice and our elected representatives help shape the directives and regulations. While the US is also a democracy, I don't have any influence there at all (which is fine) and my data is foreign and is treated differently than that of US citizens. Furthermore, even if an American company does something blatantly illegal my practical recourses are severely limited by costs and distance (try suing someone in California) I am not ready to accept that when interacting with a local business any data needs to flow across the Atlantic. I really like the idea of having a local independent data handler who operates European infrastructure on behalf of companies like Microsoft did a few years back.

sc11 5y ago

> In a sence it's also a move towards limiting user's freedom to chose where to store data, isn't it? It's not, users can of course consent to data being stored elsewhere. The article explicitely points this out: > Instead, the court took the approach that data could only be lawfully transferred to the U.S. via a mutual legal assistance treaty (Article 48 GDPR), or under Article 49 GDPR’s derogations, such as consent. It confined its lawfulness analysis to those grounds alone.

pelorat 5y ago

NZ already has a law for this.

avodonosov 5y ago
Really? Too bad :(