Honestly, and I understand this is possibly a hard pill to swallow for anyone that really believes in devops, most devs don't necessarily think in the right min

Honestly, and I understand this is possibly a hard pill to swallow for anyone that really believes in devops, most devs don't necessarily think in the right mindset for high reliability and performance often required for that role. And most sysadmins don't think in the right mindset for application development and getting features specced and out the door. What you're left with is a position mostly staffed by people that are a poor fit, even more so than the regular problems hiring for either. It's sort of like expecting you can get by with only sales engineers. Having someone good at either job is hard enough, expecting you can staff only those that are just as good at both? Reality is you'll just end up with people deficient in one area or the other. You might get by with a small core of people that can successfully straddle both roles, as long as you don't expect them to fully handle the needs of both departments, but I suspect hiring only for either department and fostering good communication and encouraging them to work together on projects that help deployment and availability yields better results. Maybe that partnership will grow you some good devops people if you're lucky. Maybe you should resist making a department out of them if that happens.