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A common counter to this is something along the lines of "<bureaucrats with title t> are necessary because someone has to think about <something> blabla" where
by bedobi 5y ago
A common counter to this is something along the lines of "<bureaucrats with title t> are necessary because someone has to think about <something> blabla" where something is usually strategy, business, concept, product, whatever.
It's true someone has to think about those things! But in my experience, most of the people who do it are terrible at it and just come up with endless important sounding grand initiatives that are really just bullshit. But they are very good at making them seem important and portraying them as successes by perverting data etc etc.
So even if you're in an org where implementation is very efficient (cross functional teams etc), at the end of the day, you're just being very efficient in implementing bullshit.
To me it seems like the best orgs are those that have efficient implementation combined with a very simple goal that everyone can appreciate and so there is little need for such bullshit.
- madeofpalk 5y agoThis is why I have such a fond appreciation of Good Product Managers. For me, they are the make-or-break factor for a dev job.
- bedobi 5y agoMe too! I know it probably sounds like my comment belittles everyone with those titles, but I'm not. I guess what I am saying, in my experience, Good Product Managers are extremely, extremely rare, and ones that peddle bullshit are extremely common, and unfortunately, it's probably all but impossible to tell which is which during a hiring process, because they will all portray everything they've ever done as a massive success.
- andruby 5y agoAbsolutely. I often say that "doing the right thing wrong" is more important than "doing the wrong thing right". In other words: the choice of which problem to solve is more important than how you solve it.
- mountainriver 5y agoYup they are great at adding more friction to your job and terrible at knowing what actually needs to happen