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> The race to vaccinate enough people is frankly impossible considering how politically charged it became. Fucking Republicans. Please take your politically ch

> The race to vaccinate enough people is frankly impossible considering how politically charged it became. Fucking Republicans. Please take your politically charged discourse elsewhere. This isn't the right place for mudslinging like this.

atonse 5y ago
I do agree with the general sentiment of keeping politics out of it. But sadly there do seem to be some pretty strong correlations at a county level across the US. It could also be rural/urban cultural divides but the more obvious one is simply politics.
- _-david-_ 5y ago
  There are a large number of blacks and young people who are not vaccinated. This is a bipartisan thing.
  - nojito 5y ago
  - javagram 5y ago
    Actually, political affiliation is the strongest demographic predictor for Covid-19 vaccine refusal. Check the actual stats. Unfortunately a lot of GOP leaning media sources including top rated Fox News opinion hosts have been spreading FUD about the vaccine for a year. People listen to their trusted news hosts and media sources…
    - cltby 5y ago
      > Check the actual stats 60 % of Republicans have received at least one dose [1], but only 51 % of blacks have done the same [2]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/17/counties-voted-trump-higher-covid-death-rate https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/17/counties-vot... [2] https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/ https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-...
      - javagram 5y ago
        You are comparing different populations. * “ 60% of Republican adults” * “58% percent of White people had received at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose, which was close to the rate for Hispanic people (56%) but higher than the rate for Black people (51%)“ The problem becomes obvious if you compare it now. How could the Republican % be higher than the white, Hispanic, or black %? Not because republicans are more likely than democrats or neutrals to get the vaccine - it’s because you’ve compared total population (including children who aren’t eligible or only became eligible in the last month or two) to adult population. Now look at stats that actually compare like for like and you can see GOP members are much less open to vaccination than Black Americans. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/28/republicans-remain-much-more-resistant-coronavirus-vaccines-than-black-americans/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/28/republica...
    - _-david-_ 5y ago
      I have checked the stats. Blacks and Hispanics have a much higher rates per capita of not being vaccinated than whites. It just so happens that whites are the largest race which results in significant numbers of unvaccinated whites. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographic https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demogr...
    - jazzyjackson 5y ago
      fox news is the most popular TV news and has like 1-2 million daily viewers. I could be wrong but I don’t think people are going by what they see on TV.
      - XorNot 5y ago
        Fox News daily or hourly viewer count is not the same 2.5 million people (https://www.statista.com/statistics/373814/cable-news-network-viewership-usa/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/373814/cable-news-networ...) consistently. https://www.reuters.com/article/industry-us-news-idUSTRE68D03N20100914 https://www.reuters.com/article/industry-us-news-idUSTRE68D0... notes that in general the average American spends about 60 minutes a day getting news from TV, radio or newspapers and only 9% report they exclusively get news online. The major networks have a huge impact on the overall media narrative, and Fox News is the biggest.
- paulsutter 5y ago
  Low income folks have low vaccination rates, high income folks have high vaccination rates It’s just as foolish to believe CNN as Fox
joshu 5y ago
If the mud fits, they need to wear it. Tone policing like this is mostly for their benefit.
btmiller 5y ago
It brings me no pleasure in addressing this reality. Many conservatives are fine people, but the damage done by Republican media outlets is undeniable and it stifles advancement to the detriment of all. This is why my comment was really about praising the potential of a good therapeutic. Political ideologies fade when all you can think about is survival, in contrast to preventative care which requires forethought.
- atonse 5y ago
  Unfortunately this is exactly the opposite of what happened. Political ideologies did not fade but got stronger in spite of this one thing that is probably the most apolitical thing to happen to us. A “natural disaster” that wasn’t caused by a natural phenomenon that’s itself become politically charged: climate change. While I see most of the nuttiness on the right (with regards to the pandemic and attacking public health measures), I have friends who said they’d refuse to take the vaccine because operation warp speed suggested it was rushed (and was a Trump thing). But they were first in line to get it when Biden had been president for a few months. Nothing else had changed with the vaccines.

atonse 5y ago

I do agree with the general sentiment of keeping politics out of it. But sadly there do seem to be some pretty strong correlations at a county level across the US. It could also be rural/urban cultural divides but the more obvious one is simply politics.

_-david-_ 5y ago
There are a large number of blacks and young people who are not vaccinated. This is a bipartisan thing.
- nojito 5y ago
- javagram 5y ago
  Actually, political affiliation is the strongest demographic predictor for Covid-19 vaccine refusal. Check the actual stats. Unfortunately a lot of GOP leaning media sources including top rated Fox News opinion hosts have been spreading FUD about the vaccine for a year. People listen to their trusted news hosts and media sources…
  - cltby 5y ago
    > Check the actual stats 60 % of Republicans have received at least one dose [1], but only 51 % of blacks have done the same [2]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/17/counties-voted-trump-higher-covid-death-rate https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/17/counties-vot... [2] https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/ https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-...
    - javagram 5y ago
      You are comparing different populations. * “ 60% of Republican adults” * “58% percent of White people had received at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose, which was close to the rate for Hispanic people (56%) but higher than the rate for Black people (51%)“ The problem becomes obvious if you compare it now. How could the Republican % be higher than the white, Hispanic, or black %? Not because republicans are more likely than democrats or neutrals to get the vaccine - it’s because you’ve compared total population (including children who aren’t eligible or only became eligible in the last month or two) to adult population. Now look at stats that actually compare like for like and you can see GOP members are much less open to vaccination than Black Americans. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/28/republicans-remain-much-more-resistant-coronavirus-vaccines-than-black-americans/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/28/republica...
  - _-david-_ 5y ago
    I have checked the stats. Blacks and Hispanics have a much higher rates per capita of not being vaccinated than whites. It just so happens that whites are the largest race which results in significant numbers of unvaccinated whites. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographic https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demogr...
  - jazzyjackson 5y ago
    fox news is the most popular TV news and has like 1-2 million daily viewers. I could be wrong but I don’t think people are going by what they see on TV.
    - XorNot 5y ago
      Fox News daily or hourly viewer count is not the same 2.5 million people (https://www.statista.com/statistics/373814/cable-news-network-viewership-usa/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/373814/cable-news-networ...) consistently. https://www.reuters.com/article/industry-us-news-idUSTRE68D03N20100914 https://www.reuters.com/article/industry-us-news-idUSTRE68D0... notes that in general the average American spends about 60 minutes a day getting news from TV, radio or newspapers and only 9% report they exclusively get news online. The major networks have a huge impact on the overall media narrative, and Fox News is the biggest.
paulsutter 5y ago
Low income folks have low vaccination rates, high income folks have high vaccination rates It’s just as foolish to believe CNN as Fox

joshu 5y ago

If the mud fits, they need to wear it. Tone policing like this is mostly for their benefit.

btmiller 5y ago

It brings me no pleasure in addressing this reality. Many conservatives are fine people, but the damage done by Republican media outlets is undeniable and it stifles advancement to the detriment of all. This is why my comment was really about praising the potential of a good therapeutic. Political ideologies fade when all you can think about is survival, in contrast to preventative care which requires forethought.

atonse 5y ago
Unfortunately this is exactly the opposite of what happened. Political ideologies did not fade but got stronger in spite of this one thing that is probably the most apolitical thing to happen to us. A “natural disaster” that wasn’t caused by a natural phenomenon that’s itself become politically charged: climate change. While I see most of the nuttiness on the right (with regards to the pandemic and attacking public health measures), I have friends who said they’d refuse to take the vaccine because operation warp speed suggested it was rushed (and was a Trump thing). But they were first in line to get it when Biden had been president for a few months. Nothing else had changed with the vaccines.