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> In fact, this is news we're hearing about because of the steps Apple took to make it harder to use these devices for bad purposes. I've got Android. Where do

> In fact, this is news we're hearing about because of the steps Apple took to make it harder to use these devices for bad purposes. I've got Android. Where do i see a warning? Ps. No, people with Android will not have a Apple app installed. It's the wrong solution for that problem.

nomel 5y ago
How is it the wrong solution? An app is required for any of this to work/be detected. Either everyone jumps on the same bandwagon (Google joins Apple or something), or you install the app for the bandwagon that exists.
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  ? No. An app must be installed to detect abuse, who would install that preventively?... For setup, sure that's possible as an app. But my comment was "where do i see a warning", as in : detect abuse. A protocol should be implemented, so it can be implemented on a more broad os level. In reality: no one will install an app for a potential abuse and i can't imagine someone would think otherwise. The people that are getting conned are obviously not the users configuring the AirTag.
  - nomel 5y ago
    > An app must be installed to detect abuse, who would install that preventively?... > A protocol should be implemented, so it can be implemented on a more broad os level. I don't understand, this is what I'm saying. "Either everyone jumps on the same bandwagon (Google joins Apple or something), or you install the app for the bandwagon that exists." You need the software installed. Either everyone jumps on the same bandwagon and everyone provides the app/system service with their phone, for the same protocol, or everyone has to install an app/system service that supports whomever's specific protocol. This has been the case long before apple, with Tile, Samsung, etc. > who would install that preventively? With the unfortunate consequence of causality and forward direction of time, everyone that has a phone that doesn't already have it as a system service, until everyone jumps on the same bandwagon and agrees to supporting one specific protocol. What's the alternative here? Regulate all tracking devices so they can't be sold until all phones can detect them?

nomel 5y ago

How is it the wrong solution? An app is required for any of this to work/be detected. Either everyone jumps on the same bandwagon (Google joins Apple or something), or you install the app for the bandwagon that exists.

NicoJuicy 5y ago
? No. An app must be installed to detect abuse, who would install that preventively?... For setup, sure that's possible as an app. But my comment was "where do i see a warning", as in : detect abuse. A protocol should be implemented, so it can be implemented on a more broad os level. In reality: no one will install an app for a potential abuse and i can't imagine someone would think otherwise. The people that are getting conned are obviously not the users configuring the AirTag.
- nomel 5y ago
  > An app must be installed to detect abuse, who would install that preventively?... > A protocol should be implemented, so it can be implemented on a more broad os level. I don't understand, this is what I'm saying. "Either everyone jumps on the same bandwagon (Google joins Apple or something), or you install the app for the bandwagon that exists." You need the software installed. Either everyone jumps on the same bandwagon and everyone provides the app/system service with their phone, for the same protocol, or everyone has to install an app/system service that supports whomever's specific protocol. This has been the case long before apple, with Tile, Samsung, etc. > who would install that preventively? With the unfortunate consequence of causality and forward direction of time, everyone that has a phone that doesn't already have it as a system service, until everyone jumps on the same bandwagon and agrees to supporting one specific protocol. What's the alternative here? Regulate all tracking devices so they can't be sold until all phones can detect them?