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I always worry about our oceans. We farm them as if there is a limitless supply and our actions have no consequences. Frankly African consumption is probably no

I always worry about our oceans. We farm them as if there is a limitless supply and our actions have no consequences. Frankly African consumption is probably nowhere close to what the west has an appetite for or some of the Asian countries have. Can only wonder about what happens when the consumption goes up in other parts of the world including Africa.

markdown 5y ago
> We farm them as if there is a limitless supply and our actions have no consequences. Farm isn't quite the correct word. All we do is take.
- Reason077 5y ago
  This story is about farmed fish (ie: fish raised in man made, fresh water fish ponds/tanks). Not wild fish taken from the sea.
Reason077 5y ago
To be clear, this story is about farmed fish from inland, fresh-water fish farms. No sea involved. Fish farms can still cause pollution, of course, but if well managed they should be no worse than any other farm.
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  Depends to some extent what they're feeding the fish. Some farmed fish are fed wild-caught fishmeal and fish oil from smaller fish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forage_fish#Use_as_animal_feed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forage_fish#Use_as_animal_feed
- ulnarkressty 5y ago
  ...unless the feed comes from their nearby coast -- https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/03/08/fish-farming-is-feeding-the-globe-whats-the-cost-for-locals https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/03/08/fish-farming-i... (google translated from German) -- https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/ausland/gambia-chinas-trawler-fischen-afrikas-kuesten-leer-fuer-unseren-lachs-aus-norwegen-a-8e9559d1-13ca-453a-a6e8-51eea97e49ab?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/ausland/gambia-chinas-...
- markdown 5y ago
  Did you read the comment I was responding to? > I always worry about our oceans. We farm them as if there is a limitless supply and our actions have no consequences.
ed25519FUUU 5y ago
Agree but the small independent fish farmers in Africa are not to blame. These are like 1 or 2 people operations. Really nothing compared to the ocean raiding by western and eastern fishing vessels.
lainga 5y ago
Well, we did until the mid-90s. North Atlantic fishing hasn't been as unregulated as to presume "limitless supply" for about 30 years.

markdown 5y ago

> We farm them as if there is a limitless supply and our actions have no consequences. Farm isn't quite the correct word. All we do is take.

Reason077 5y ago
This story is about farmed fish (ie: fish raised in man made, fresh water fish ponds/tanks). Not wild fish taken from the sea.

Reason077 5y ago

To be clear, this story is about farmed fish from inland, fresh-water fish farms. No sea involved. Fish farms can still cause pollution, of course, but if well managed they should be no worse than any other farm.

ceejayoz 5y ago
Depends to some extent what they're feeding the fish. Some farmed fish are fed wild-caught fishmeal and fish oil from smaller fish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forage_fish#Use_as_animal_feed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forage_fish#Use_as_animal_feed
ulnarkressty 5y ago
...unless the feed comes from their nearby coast -- https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/03/08/fish-farming-is-feeding-the-globe-whats-the-cost-for-locals https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/03/08/fish-farming-i... (google translated from German) -- https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/ausland/gambia-chinas-trawler-fischen-afrikas-kuesten-leer-fuer-unseren-lachs-aus-norwegen-a-8e9559d1-13ca-453a-a6e8-51eea97e49ab?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/ausland/gambia-chinas-...
markdown 5y ago
Did you read the comment I was responding to? > I always worry about our oceans. We farm them as if there is a limitless supply and our actions have no consequences.

ed25519FUUU 5y ago

Agree but the small independent fish farmers in Africa are not to blame. These are like 1 or 2 people operations. Really nothing compared to the ocean raiding by western and eastern fishing vessels.

lainga 5y ago

Well, we did until the mid-90s. North Atlantic fishing hasn't been as unregulated as to presume "limitless supply" for about 30 years.