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Of course they keep making them. They don't want bloodshed where it's not needed. But you seem to think that this trend can go on forever no matter what. That

Of course they keep making them. They don't want bloodshed where it's not needed. But you seem to think that this trend can go on forever no matter what. That is a dangerous mistake. What's needed is deescalation, not more escalation in the faulty thinking that they will continue to do nothing no matter what happens.

CRConrad 5y ago
> What's needed is deescalation So go tell the fucking PRC to deescalate.
stale2002 5y ago
> Of course they keep making them. They don't want bloodshed where it's not needed. Exactly, I agree. They keep making threats, that they don't follow through on, and they will continue to not follow through on them. Nothing is needed, to do anything, given the fact that Taiwan is already independent, and that has been the case for decades. > What's needed is deescalation There is nothing to de-escalate. Taiwan is already an independent country, and it has been so for decades, and that will continue. They have had their own taxes, laws, and borders for decades. And they have those same things today. Nothing has changed. They are already independent, and that was the case before, and still is now. And anyway, the only one who can choose to stop making those empty threats is china. Complain at them if you don't like their big talk, and no follow through threats.
- FooBarWidget 5y ago
  Wait a minute, are you saying the US weapon sales to Taiwan, the US warships near Taiwan, and AUKUS, are not a thing?
  - stale2002 5y ago
    > are you saying the US weapon sales I am saying that none of this has changed. Taiwan is its own independent country, for decades, and we've been doing the same things, which is follow our defensive treaty with them, and have been doing this for decades. That's the status quo. Nothing needs to change. Nobody is shooting down Chinese military assets. All that is happening is the same exact, completely normal defensive treaty actions that we've been doing for a while. And china isn't going to do anything about this status quo, of Taiwan already being an independent country, with a defense treaty with the US.

CRConrad 5y ago

> What's needed is deescalation So go tell the fucking PRC to deescalate.

stale2002 5y ago

> Of course they keep making them. They don't want bloodshed where it's not needed. Exactly, I agree. They keep making threats, that they don't follow through on, and they will continue to not follow through on them. Nothing is needed, to do anything, given the fact that Taiwan is already independent, and that has been the case for decades. > What's needed is deescalation There is nothing to de-escalate. Taiwan is already an independent country, and it has been so for decades, and that will continue. They have had their own taxes, laws, and borders for decades. And they have those same things today. Nothing has changed. They are already independent, and that was the case before, and still is now. And anyway, the only one who can choose to stop making those empty threats is china. Complain at them if you don't like their big talk, and no follow through threats.

FooBarWidget 5y ago
Wait a minute, are you saying the US weapon sales to Taiwan, the US warships near Taiwan, and AUKUS, are not a thing?
- stale2002 5y ago
  > are you saying the US weapon sales I am saying that none of this has changed. Taiwan is its own independent country, for decades, and we've been doing the same things, which is follow our defensive treaty with them, and have been doing this for decades. That's the status quo. Nothing needs to change. Nobody is shooting down Chinese military assets. All that is happening is the same exact, completely normal defensive treaty actions that we've been doing for a while. And china isn't going to do anything about this status quo, of Taiwan already being an independent country, with a defense treaty with the US.