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> Forgiving debt isn't about you You're helping to make GP's point. You are saying that those who owe money are more important to this conversation without kno

> Forgiving debt isn't about you You're helping to make GP's point. You are saying that those who owe money are more important to this conversation without knowing anything else about them.

310260 5y ago
Yes because those who still owe money are who it affects. Sure it sucks that people who already paid off their loans can't have them forgiven now but what's done is done. Can't accommodate every single person perfectly.
- mk81 5y ago
ketzo 5y ago
From an economic standpoint, they are more important. People with massive, life-ruining debt are more important for us to help than people who graduated debt-free or who got jobs/careers that let them pay off their debt. If you can divorce yourself from a kindergarten-esque "fairness" complaint, it's pretty obvious that yeah, we should (unfairly!) help people who are being destroyed by debt.
- meatsauce 5y ago
  How is it unfair if they agreed to take on the debt? If they went to school, got a degree, and a job, then they got what was promised and need to pay their commitments.
- benatkin 5y ago
  > we should (unfairly!) help people who are being destroyed by debt The plans are to forgive 10K of debt per person. There is a crazy suggestion of forgiving 50K of debt per person but let's just ignore that (it costs more than a trillion). People who owe 100K are still fucked. They did go to better schools, though, so they have better jobs. Many also have good connections, because they have an easier time networking with their connections. Wanna know who is more fucked? Many people who didn't take loans and went to no-name schools and are working low paying jobs and have few social connections. If we give money to either group it's a handout. For these politicians to pretend it's not a handout because it's forgiving a loan is disingenuous. Elon Musk isn't wrong to poke fun at Elizabeth Warren. Let's just hope it doesn't result in another Trumpist president.

> Forgiving debt isn't about you You're helping to make GP's point. You are saying that those who owe money are more important to this conversation without knowing anything else about them.

310260 5y ago

Yes because those who still owe money are who it affects. Sure it sucks that people who already paid off their loans can't have them forgiven now but what's done is done. Can't accommodate every single person perfectly.

mk81 5y ago

ketzo 5y ago

From an economic standpoint, they are more important. People with massive, life-ruining debt are more important for us to help than people who graduated debt-free or who got jobs/careers that let them pay off their debt. If you can divorce yourself from a kindergarten-esque "fairness" complaint, it's pretty obvious that yeah, we should (unfairly!) help people who are being destroyed by debt.

meatsauce 5y ago
How is it unfair if they agreed to take on the debt? If they went to school, got a degree, and a job, then they got what was promised and need to pay their commitments.
benatkin 5y ago
> we should (unfairly!) help people who are being destroyed by debt The plans are to forgive 10K of debt per person. There is a crazy suggestion of forgiving 50K of debt per person but let's just ignore that (it costs more than a trillion). People who owe 100K are still fucked. They did go to better schools, though, so they have better jobs. Many also have good connections, because they have an easier time networking with their connections. Wanna know who is more fucked? Many people who didn't take loans and went to no-name schools and are working low paying jobs and have few social connections. If we give money to either group it's a handout. For these politicians to pretend it's not a handout because it's forgiving a loan is disingenuous. Elon Musk isn't wrong to poke fun at Elizabeth Warren. Let's just hope it doesn't result in another Trumpist president.