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I couldn't imagine country run by a middle school bully. Now I can.

by deusum 5y ago

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As someone who have spent 13 or so years of their life in China, I absolutely agree with this perspective. The culture of modern China seem to support a strangely "macho" image particularly for men: it's acceptable and maybe even encouraged, for men to be overtaken by rage, and thrash and kick around while yelling things. [1] It looks like this mentality is reflected by the politics of china as a whole. [1]: This is actually very accurate to how people get angry in China, I've seen teachers, businessmen, even customers, rage in this characteristic weirdly macho way. https://youtu.be/aCdFec3uu_g https://youtu.be/aCdFec3uu_g
- whimsicalism 5y ago
  ? I honestly don't see anything in this video that I wouldn't see in expressions of anger in the US, except that they are speaking a mix of chinese and english.
- mads 5y ago
  This is also my experience. Except I have seen it a lot with females also. Maybe because my family in law is Chinese I am more exposed to it. China sure has a lot of empty very loud barrels.
- 5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
  > https://youtu.be/aCdFec3uu_g https://youtu.be/aCdFec3uu_g In what culture is this considered "macho"? He's acting like a little spoiled brat.
  - LAC-Tech 5y ago
    And now you understand PRC diplomacy - closing an embassy because an unofficial trade office used 'taiwan' instead of 'taipei'.
- whodunnit 5y ago
  Emotional regulation issues are generally caused by childhood abuse. Mainland China is a society suffering from untreated PTSD and inter generational abuse.
- nowherebeen 5y ago
  This is ridiculously and demeaning to the Chinese people. Losing your temper is universal and I have seen plenty of white friends that lash out. To say that only Chinese people behave this way and not white people is well at best a sign of superiority complex and at worst a subtle _______ remark.
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  - synergy20 5y ago
    People of all color lost temper all the time, that normally gets improved when they age. The "Red Guards" (i.e. culture revolution) generation from China indeed stood out as a group that acts very differently. They are always ready to _fight_ with anyone just because of different opinions, thus the aggressiveness. It's a life long disease that keeps getting worse with no cure.
    - nowherebeen 5y ago
      I agree there are many in China that feel ready to fight. But I don’t judge all Chinese people like so. Just like I don’t judge all Americans act like their Republican politicians either. Imagine if someone called all Americans are loud, obnoxious, fat, and dumb. Something that is frequently claimed by most Europeans about Americans. This wouldn’t be fair to regular Americans, would it? What OP is doing is pre-labeling an entire country’s population. And it is wrong. If readers here can’t see how this is problematic, then I am simply disappointed how low HN has fallen over the years.
      - synergy20 5y ago
        Where did you see someone targeting _all_ Chinese? I did not see that. The point here is the red-guard generation in general is a bit unique, that's about it. All or nothing argument is dead on arrival, we all know that.
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't take HN threads into nationalistic/ethnic flamewar, regardless of how many years you spent in a place. Nothing good can come of this sort of provocation. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I couldn't imagine country run by a middle school bully. Now I can.

by deusum 5y ago

I couldn't imagine country run by a middle school bully. Now I can.

As someone who have spent 13 or so years of their life in China, I absolutely agree with this perspective. The culture of modern China seem to support a strangely "macho" image particularly for men: it's acceptable and maybe even encouraged, for men to be overtaken by rage, and thrash and kick around while yelling things. [1] It looks like this mentality is reflected by the politics of china as a whole. [1]: This is actually very accurate to how people get angry in China, I've seen teachers, businessmen, even customers, rage in this characteristic weirdly macho way. https://youtu.be/aCdFec3uu_g https://youtu.be/aCdFec3uu_g

whimsicalism 5y ago
? I honestly don't see anything in this video that I wouldn't see in expressions of anger in the US, except that they are speaking a mix of chinese and english.
mads 5y ago
This is also my experience. Except I have seen it a lot with females also. Maybe because my family in law is Chinese I am more exposed to it. China sure has a lot of empty very loud barrels.
5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
> https://youtu.be/aCdFec3uu_g https://youtu.be/aCdFec3uu_g In what culture is this considered "macho"? He's acting like a little spoiled brat.
- LAC-Tech 5y ago
  And now you understand PRC diplomacy - closing an embassy because an unofficial trade office used 'taiwan' instead of 'taipei'.
whodunnit 5y ago
Emotional regulation issues are generally caused by childhood abuse. Mainland China is a society suffering from untreated PTSD and inter generational abuse.
nowherebeen 5y ago
This is ridiculously and demeaning to the Chinese people. Losing your temper is universal and I have seen plenty of white friends that lash out. To say that only Chinese people behave this way and not white people is well at best a sign of superiority complex and at worst a subtle _______ remark.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- synergy20 5y ago
  People of all color lost temper all the time, that normally gets improved when they age. The "Red Guards" (i.e. culture revolution) generation from China indeed stood out as a group that acts very differently. They are always ready to _fight_ with anyone just because of different opinions, thus the aggressiveness. It's a life long disease that keeps getting worse with no cure.
  - nowherebeen 5y ago
    I agree there are many in China that feel ready to fight. But I don’t judge all Chinese people like so. Just like I don’t judge all Americans act like their Republican politicians either. Imagine if someone called all Americans are loud, obnoxious, fat, and dumb. Something that is frequently claimed by most Europeans about Americans. This wouldn’t be fair to regular Americans, would it? What OP is doing is pre-labeling an entire country’s population. And it is wrong. If readers here can’t see how this is problematic, then I am simply disappointed how low HN has fallen over the years.
    - synergy20 5y ago
      Where did you see someone targeting _all_ Chinese? I did not see that. The point here is the red-guard generation in general is a bit unique, that's about it. All or nothing argument is dead on arrival, we all know that.
dang 5y ago
Please don't take HN threads into nationalistic/ethnic flamewar, regardless of how many years you spent in a place. Nothing good can come of this sort of provocation. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html