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Absolutely trivial to demonstrate to be false. I can use websites to videoconferencing. Streaming considered video and audio comes with non trivial loads. I c

Absolutely trivial to demonstrate to be false. I can use websites to videoconferencing. Streaming considered video and audio comes with non trivial loads. I can use websites to compress images, to compute tabulated data on various Excel clones, remotely control devices or play games. This isn't 1995 and we're way past indulging user lazy choices which have us a decade of internet explorer nightmares. Web is much more than that, and one need to know where to draw the line where their products minimum requirement lies.

grishka 5y ago
> I can use websites to videoconferencing. > I can use websites to compress images, to compute tabulated data on various Excel clones, remotely control devices or play games. You sure can, but you probably shouldn't. These use cases are much better served by native apps. Shoehorning hypertext documents with macros into being applications will never come close to writing proper applications, in terms of both UX and performance. I really wish we would undo many of the "advancements" of the web technology. This scope creep needs to stop, yesterday. I wish there to be an answer to a simple question: when is a web browser finished?
- avereveard 5y ago
  What you talking about? App delivery trough browser is what enabled the low cost zero friction startup world you see today, and we're all better for it.
  - grishka 5y ago
    I don't want "low cost zero friction startup world", I want completed products that actually work, ffs.
    - avereveard 5y ago
      we've been there, 1 in 20 household could afford to tech up, and even less could spare for anything but the most essential software. acquiring a cad or photoshop license was a significant percentage of yearly earning, and renting platforms was unheard of. you say you do, but you don't.
      - grishka 5y ago
        Heh, buying software for personal use? Maybe I'm too Russian to understand that. We pirate everything for personal use. Only companies pay for licenses. And allegedly, Adobe and such were fine with that, up until shareholders decided they need to monetize more aggressively to "grow".

grishka 5y ago

> I can use websites to videoconferencing. > I can use websites to compress images, to compute tabulated data on various Excel clones, remotely control devices or play games. You sure can, but you probably shouldn't. These use cases are much better served by native apps. Shoehorning hypertext documents with macros into being applications will never come close to writing proper applications, in terms of both UX and performance. I really wish we would undo many of the "advancements" of the web technology. This scope creep needs to stop, yesterday. I wish there to be an answer to a simple question: when is a web browser finished?

avereveard 5y ago
What you talking about? App delivery trough browser is what enabled the low cost zero friction startup world you see today, and we're all better for it.
- grishka 5y ago
  I don't want "low cost zero friction startup world", I want completed products that actually work, ffs.
  - avereveard 5y ago
    we've been there, 1 in 20 household could afford to tech up, and even less could spare for anything but the most essential software. acquiring a cad or photoshop license was a significant percentage of yearly earning, and renting platforms was unheard of. you say you do, but you don't.
    - grishka 5y ago
      Heh, buying software for personal use? Maybe I'm too Russian to understand that. We pirate everything for personal use. Only companies pay for licenses. And allegedly, Adobe and such were fine with that, up until shareholders decided they need to monetize more aggressively to "grow".