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> Both you and the author of the blog post assume that rationality is better than being able to show our emotions I didn't say this. If it's not clear, I think

> Both you and the author of the blog post assume that rationality is better than being able to show our emotions I didn't say this. If it's not clear, I think it was a great thing and I benefited from it. I value both reason and emotion. It's not a novel or revolutionary topic. Gene Roddenberry explored it with the logic of Spock and the gut intuition of Kirk. I've since learned it goes back even further: The romantic writers and poets made a genuine break with the rational, orderly thinking of the eighteenth century Enlightenment. While we still think of Voltaire as a symbol of the power of reason, his contemporary, Jean-Jacques Rousseau, was one of the early, prominent voices of nineteenth century romanticism https://novaonline.nvcc.edu/Eli/Eng252/Bb_version/StudyGuide/RomanticStudy.html https://novaonline.nvcc.edu/Eli/Eng252/Bb_version/StudyGuide... My own theory is that WW2 and the subsequent struggle with Communism over-emphasized the rational as a survival mechanism and the 70's were a time when we stopped doing that. Edit: We got to the Moon with rational systems thinking (we also got Silicon Valley) so I'm not saying it was bad. Also, I enjoy Adam Curtis documentaries that explore these topics, esp. All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace.

tarsinge 5y ago
Maybe tangential but that makes me think how opposing mathematics/science/rationality to art/intuition/emotions with people falling in one or the other category seems a relatively recent phenomenon, whereas in the past (Ancient Greece or Renaissance with Da Vinci being the obvious example) that distinction was not present.
- b3morales 5y ago
  Yeah, there's a long current in art, across all media, since at least the Industrial Revolution of antipathy to perceptions of modernity, technology, and hyper-rationality. Which then metastasized after the wars in the early 20th century, especially the Great War (WWI). Some of it -- especially the response to the wars -- is fair critique; some is rose-colored and reactionary. And this notion of "science" on one side, "art" on the other, course spread to the wider culture. I think the personal computer and digital art have been healing that divide somewhat.

tarsinge 5y ago

Maybe tangential but that makes me think how opposing mathematics/science/rationality to art/intuition/emotions with people falling in one or the other category seems a relatively recent phenomenon, whereas in the past (Ancient Greece or Renaissance with Da Vinci being the obvious example) that distinction was not present.

b3morales 5y ago
Yeah, there's a long current in art, across all media, since at least the Industrial Revolution of antipathy to perceptions of modernity, technology, and hyper-rationality. Which then metastasized after the wars in the early 20th century, especially the Great War (WWI). Some of it -- especially the response to the wars -- is fair critique; some is rose-colored and reactionary. And this notion of "science" on one side, "art" on the other, course spread to the wider culture. I think the personal computer and digital art have been healing that divide somewhat.