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China pretending to be the victim of Lithuanian bullying really is a farce more ridiculous than usual.
by BrazzVuvuzela 5y ago
China pretending to be the victim of Lithuanian bullying really is a farce more ridiculous than usual.
- adamnemecek 5y agoWorst thing to happen to China since the Sino-Albanian split https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Albanian_split https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Albanian_split
- vmception 5y agoTragedy that upset geopolitics and trade relations for half a century (sarcasm about China’s extra behavior)
- Raed667 5y agoThe cynicism of China foreign policy never ceases to amaze
- bettysdiagnose 5y agoIt's like they want the rest of the world to hate them.
- koolba 5y agoNot quite. They just don’t care what anybody else thinks outside of game theory analysis of how they will act. If the country was a person, we’d label their personality as a high functioning manipulative sociopath.
- toomuchtodo 5y agoAnd yet, we don’t do what is best practice for dealing with such an actor: disengage. We (the US primarily, but also the rest of the developed world) have a tremendous opportunity with a still productive labor force and cheap capital to boot up manufacturing capacity we offshored to China, and we won’t have the chance again when China decides to act against other countries (economically or militarily).
- SuoDuanDao 5y agoDisengaging takes a while. If there's a strong desire to avoid things going kinetic, it takes even longer. I feel as though the post-Obama era of US politics is oscillating around the best amount of caution WRT avoiding a hot war with China.
- BrazzVuvuzela 5y agoAuthoritarian regimes love fostering us vs the world narratives; it helps them maintain control.
- staunch 5y agoIt's not a bad trick. Lots of historical examples of an external enemy bringing internal stability. It often ends in genocide, sure, but it does seem to work!
- dvlsadvoxate6 5y agoUS v China US v Russia US v Vietnam US v Middle East US v Cuba US capitalism v everyone I see what you mean about authoritarian US v the world Edit: polite society = don’t mention how we’re like everyone else
- whimsicalism 5y agoDo you all really not see how our media has a hand in this at all?
- dang 5y agoCould you please not post flamewar comments to HN? Several (I'm not saying all of them) of your comments in this thread have been doing that. This is not what this site is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- whimsicalism 5y agoFair, and I can see that we've diverged from the subject of the article. I might suggest that > It's like they want the rest of the world to hate them. is a pretty incendiary comment, but I will avoid fanning the flames in the future.
- hutzlibu 5y agoMaybe, there surely are double standards, but maybe you do not see, how their politic still really asks for it?
- smoldesu 5y agoNo. Enlighten me.
- whimsicalism 5y agoChina was organ harvesting in the early 00s. You didn't see anywhere near as many negative articles constantly about China, Chinese enroachment, etc. etc. then. It is only now that we are afraid China will eclipse our spot on the global stage that anyone gives a crap about Chinese human rights abuses, because of coverage largely driven by the media. We've also switched to spinning things that China does that we also do in a much more negative light, for instance, how the media discusses Chinese loan programs to Africa (compared to how IMF/World Bank programs are just not discussed) or Chinese attempts to build a military base on the Atlantic coast (compared to the dozens of military bases we have in the South China Sea area).
- swarnie 5y ago
- yeetman21 5y agoplease don't turn this place into reddit
- SuoDuanDao 5y agoI do not trust that meme. Taiwan became the country it is today because it was heavily settled by the traditional Chinese Burgeoisie that became the target of Mao's revolution. It may be that China would now like to pivot towards a culture more informed by Taiwan's system than the leftovers of its own Marxist system. So 'Mainland Taiwan' may very well play into the CCP's current cultural intentions. Regardless, we should not lose sight of what this conflict is about; it is first and last about who controls the world's supply of semiconductors. Any cultural, idealistic, or legal considerations are secondary.
- nix23 5y agoThere is a massive lack of knowledge on your side.
- agumonkey 5y agoSounds like a Michael Myers movie plot
- steve76 5y ago[dead]
- dexterdog 5y agoIs it that different than the US complaining about Iran/NK/flavor of the week?
- yoavm 5y agoWhat? Yes, of course it is. Do you not see a difference between a nuclear threat to, well, agreeing to the opening of a Taiwanese office? In what world is this even similar?
- trasz 5y agoIn what world was that an actual threat?
- whimsicalism 5y agoFrom Iran, none. From NK, I'm not sure - I am not convinced by the rationality of their actors.
- yoavm 5y agoYou're missing the point. NK/Iran aggressiveness isn't remotely similar to Lithuania letting Taiwan open an office. As for how real the threat is - I'm not an expert, and I don't know you calculate threat, but NK does have nuclear weapon and it's probably the only reason why the are allowed to starve millions of human beings. They also literally, well, threatened to use it. Iran doesn't have one yet, but are lying about their status of development, enriching way more then required for civil purposes, and kicking out international watchers. Oh, and at the same time threatening to wipe Israel off the map. Saying there's no threat sounds like nitpicking to me.