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I am not trying to obfuscate. And I am sorry if i sounded condescending when I mentioned "getting it". When you dream at night, and see yourself in a "body", i

I am not trying to obfuscate. And I am sorry if i sounded condescending when I mentioned "getting it". When you dream at night, and see yourself in a "body", is the mind and consciousness of that body your real consciousness. Is that body's brain creating your real consciousness. If science points to that consciousness, then there is a strong possibility of it being the wrong consciousness. The consciousness of the sleeping person is the real one. The same applies here too. Normally, since the conscious state is one of low awareness, one is not aware in deep sleep and swoon. However, when one practices being aware and raises the level of awareness, one is conscious in all states. All this becomes very apparent as one raises one's awareness and comes out of "mind consciousness" -- continuously living in thought.

sharkbot 15y ago
As a person who is sympathetic to Buddhism, I appreciate what you're saying. But, what you are describing is still vulnerable to the "anesthetic defence": Can you (or someone) remain conscious after the administration of anesthetic, especially after training? If not, then consciousness appears to be a strictly physical phenomenon. I haven't found any literature to suggest that consciousness thru anesthetic is the case. I don't deny that meditation may give you the impression that you have reached "deeper" levels of consciousness, but I don't think your conclusions are justified by the evidence.