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People seeing this post are split to 2 groups: - Those who didn't accept the new terms are glad to use the opportunity to virtue-signal. - Those who accepted

by tomerv 5y ago

People seeing this post are split to 2 groups: - Those who didn't accept the new terms are glad to use the opportunity to virtue-signal. - Those who accepted the new terms are afraid to admit so. I'll bite the bullet: I accepted the terms. If you want more honest opinions, you should probably post an anonymous poll.

fsflover 5y ago
This is not a poll. The interesting part about this post is why people accept it or what they do in order to not accept it. You did not contribute anything interesting by saying "I accepted the terms".
- robjan 5y ago
  I accepted it because it's more convenient than dismissing the popup every time I want to send someone a message.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    Which means you accepted it because you do not care about your privacy or unethical behavior of Facebook.
    - aoms 5y ago
      Privacy in our world is long gone. Move on
      - fsflover 5y ago
        Not if you use TAILS or Qubes-Whonix. I use the latter.
    - robjan 5y ago
      That is your assumption
- tomerv 5y ago
  My comment started a thread where people felt comfortable to explain why they accepted the terms, so I think I did contribute something.
cillian64 5y ago
Exactly this. I accepted it because I got sick of the popup and wanted to talk to my family without having to try to convince them to move to another platform. I’m mildly annoyed about it but it didn’t seem like an issue worth spending time or effort worrying about too much.
sh4un 5y ago
I don't run Facebook, Instagram or WhatsApp on my phone. I am not sure how hard it is to grasp that some people just don't use any of it. But I guess this is where you come to virtue signal about virtue signalling. Besides, when you boot up your phone and you see the Android logo, you're fucked anyways.
- tomerv 5y ago
  What is "virtue signal about virtue signalling"? If you don't need Whatsapp to communicate with your friends/family/colleagues then good for you. In my social circles Whatsapp is a must. Refusing to use it is almost like refusing to have a cellular phone, which is too high a price for me to pay.
  - xanaxagoras 5y ago
    > What is "virtue signal about virtue signalling"? It's the jujitsu you did at the beginning of your first post. "People who chose the opposite of my choice are just here to brag about that and show us how concerned they are with big tech and privacy. I on the other hand have the stones to admit that I took the path of least resistance for convenience and there are many others like me that did the same that are just to scared to admit it. But I'm not - look at me!"
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pmontra 5y ago
I'm in a third group. I keep using WA or I'll have to call friends daily to keep up with them, until they block my number :-) However I never accepted the new ToS. WA keep asking me to accept them and I don't (can't remember the actual wordings). It has been like that for months. I've even chatted with a business a couple of weeks ago. It seems they are doing like when they were asking for 1 Euro per year. They eventually gave up and never interrupted the service. The network effects of losing users work against them.
spot5010 5y ago
I’m in a third category where I have not accepted just because I still have an option not to. Waiting to see what happens. I depend on WhatsApp heavily to keep in touch with friends and family and cannot imagine not using it (it would require everyone switching to signal enmasse).

by tomerv 5y ago

fsflover 5y ago

This is not a poll. The interesting part about this post is why people accept it or what they do in order to not accept it. You did not contribute anything interesting by saying "I accepted the terms".

robjan 5y ago
I accepted it because it's more convenient than dismissing the popup every time I want to send someone a message.
- fsflover 5y ago
  Which means you accepted it because you do not care about your privacy or unethical behavior of Facebook.
  - aoms 5y ago
    Privacy in our world is long gone. Move on
    - fsflover 5y ago
      Not if you use TAILS or Qubes-Whonix. I use the latter.
  - robjan 5y ago
    That is your assumption
tomerv 5y ago
My comment started a thread where people felt comfortable to explain why they accepted the terms, so I think I did contribute something.

cillian64 5y ago

Exactly this. I accepted it because I got sick of the popup and wanted to talk to my family without having to try to convince them to move to another platform. I’m mildly annoyed about it but it didn’t seem like an issue worth spending time or effort worrying about too much.

sh4un 5y ago

I don't run Facebook, Instagram or WhatsApp on my phone. I am not sure how hard it is to grasp that some people just don't use any of it. But I guess this is where you come to virtue signal about virtue signalling. Besides, when you boot up your phone and you see the Android logo, you're fucked anyways.

tomerv 5y ago
What is "virtue signal about virtue signalling"? If you don't need Whatsapp to communicate with your friends/family/colleagues then good for you. In my social circles Whatsapp is a must. Refusing to use it is almost like refusing to have a cellular phone, which is too high a price for me to pay.
- xanaxagoras 5y ago
  > What is "virtue signal about virtue signalling"? It's the jujitsu you did at the beginning of your first post. "People who chose the opposite of my choice are just here to brag about that and show us how concerned they are with big tech and privacy. I on the other hand have the stones to admit that I took the path of least resistance for convenience and there are many others like me that did the same that are just to scared to admit it. But I'm not - look at me!"
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pmontra 5y ago

I'm in a third group. I keep using WA or I'll have to call friends daily to keep up with them, until they block my number :-) However I never accepted the new ToS. WA keep asking me to accept them and I don't (can't remember the actual wordings). It has been like that for months. I've even chatted with a business a couple of weeks ago. It seems they are doing like when they were asking for 1 Euro per year. They eventually gave up and never interrupted the service. The network effects of losing users work against them.

spot5010 5y ago

I’m in a third category where I have not accepted just because I still have an option not to. Waiting to see what happens. I depend on WhatsApp heavily to keep in touch with friends and family and cannot imagine not using it (it would require everyone switching to signal enmasse).