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Here’s a cheap and easier trick: find two easy remote jobs each paying $125k. There’s your $250k a year. You don’t need any particularly distinguished resume.
by xwdv 5y ago
Here’s a cheap and easier trick: find two easy remote jobs each paying $125k. There’s your $250k a year. You don’t need any particularly distinguished resume.
With the right job responsibilities, this is doable for a software engineer. If you can offset the two jobs a bit by time zone it’s even better.
But you better hurry, once people catch on that this is possible the supply of developers can quickly increase overnight, leading to a fall in salaries from oversupply.
- aristofun 5y agoThis is actually great advice, though Im very bad at shitty work, i need hyperfocus and challenging task to feel good about the job :( But I wonder if there are companies who understand that 250k developer is not even close to 2 125k developers, but can be much much more valuable asset with proper management.
- headmelted 5y agoWell, sure, but this line of thinking suggests you’re worth more than double what someone else is at the same job. What makes you think this is so?
- ForHackernews 5y agoUnder market capitalism, you're "worth" whatever you can convince somebody to pay you.
- raman162 5y agoEveryone has their unique value to a company. That could range from large expertise with certain libraries/type of problems to deep knowledge of an industry or even your network (more applicable to sales/leadership). Not all developers do the same exact job and I think we can universally agree that some work performed is more valuable to a company than others.
- headmelted 5y ago100% agree. All I’m saying is that to get double the salary from someone not obligated to pay it would mean that you’d need to be able to convincingly answer that question first. It’s going to be a massive elephant in the room before the topic of money is even raised.
- iandanforth 5y agoNote sure why this is getting down voted. Freelancers and contractors work multiple client jobs all the time. Low wage workers work multiple 'full time' jobs all the time. Are FT software engineers special?
- cj 5y agoYes. If you want to work multiple jobs, that’s what contracting / consulting is for. I don’t think you can compare engineers to a struggling single parent working 2 jobs at minimum wage. The former signs contracts saying they won’t work for other companies concurrently, the latter likely doesn’t. If you want multiple jobs, simply work as a 1099 contractor. It’s that simple.
- ForHackernews 5y ago> The former signs contracts saying they won’t work for other companies concurrently, the latter likely doesn’t. Well, that's where you're mistaken: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/29/opinion/noncompete-agreement-workers.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/29/opinion/noncompete-agreem...
- iandanforth 5y agoThis strikes me as nonsense. There seems to be an uncritical acceptance of a definition of FT software engineering responsibilities here. As an exempt, salaried employee you are being paid for work, not time. If you can manage to do the work for two employers then they have no cause to complain and you've earned your pay. If you fail to do the assigned work or are unavailable for sync meetings (probably the hardest part of this arrangement) then they can fire you. Any parent who is also a FT software engineer has two full time jobs, they just don't get paid for one of them. Cultural inertia around what you 'owe' your employer is not to the benefit of employees. In this situation, where there are plenty of low level jobs that pay $125k that require 4 hours or less of actual coding time per day, working two of those jobs seems like a totally viable option. As others have pointed out you have to avoid employers that try to prevent you from working more than one job, but there are plenty of those (personal experience) so this, again, seems like a pretty good option.
- cj 5y agoI recently fired an engineer who was working 3 full time jobs all paying $130k+. He ended up getting busted by all 3 companies at once, and all 3 fired him. Hopefully he can find a new job that doesn’t check references. If you care about your reputation, or if you have the slightest moral compass, don’t do this.
- ragnot 5y agoHow did you find him out? Just curious since if someone was that determined they would probably go to extra lengths (i.e. different physical computers per job, etc) to conceal it.
- nojito 5y agoIt’s very easy to find this out. Just about any decent manager can sense it and if they care enough will follow through. I doubt anyone will reveal the how because it is becoming a cat and mouse game in my organization.
- cj 5y ago1. He took his LinkedIn down after being hired. You can't have a LinkedIn when you have 3 jobs. 2. His output was horrible. He was an obviously a good senior level developer. But it would take him a week to do something a -junior- engineer couple do in 2 days. 3. Lots of strange and unexpected absences. 4. On a number of occasions I asked how he solved a problem at a prior company, and he spoke about the company in present tense rather than past tense. (A slip up on his part) There were people a few other signs that were more subtle than the ones above... but ultimately I became suspicious about how such a good engineer's output was so bad, and had a theory he had multiple jobs. So I simply emailed his prior employer to make sure they were aware that he had resigned to work for our company. The CEO of his prior company (where he had been for 5+ years) was shocked to find out he worked for us. The 3rd company he found through YC Work at a Startup, and through that uncovered he had been applying for a 3rd job and actually accepted an offer from one of them and had begun work. There are whole blogs dedicated to how to pull this scam off (google it). But morals aside, I wouldn't recommend it simply because the stress of juggling remote meetings, standups, sprints between 3 companies is not easy.
- edf13 5y agoIsn’t this equivalent to freelancing? Do it legit and be a freelance dev/consultant and earn your 250k+