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This looks great, I love the clean GTK for this user interface. Say what you will about GTK and Gnome... for beginners on an operating system such as Ubuntu, ha

This looks great, I love the clean GTK for this user interface. Say what you will about GTK and Gnome... for beginners on an operating system such as Ubuntu, having a consistent application concept is very important. Curious how this compares to Lutris[1]. I can see it has support for it as a runner, however as far as I can tell it achieves the same thing by maintaining separate wineprefixes. [1] https://lutris.net/ https://lutris.net/

29athrowaway 5y ago
Lutris is focused mostly on games and options that benefit games.
- nicce 5y ago
  You can run manually any application you want. It just does not offer one-click install for non-games. I believe lutris offers better runner configuration.
greggh 5y ago
If you look at the screenshots, the very first screenshot says it is using Lutris as a "runner".
- mrtnpwn 5y ago
  It has a runner manager so you can choose whatever WINE runner you like. Default is just the vanilla runtime.
Jnr 5y ago
Lutris is great, but the UI is not as polished, and is probably still geared towards more advanced users.
simion314 5y ago
>Say what you will about GTK and Gnome... for beginners on an operating system such as Ubuntu, having a consistent application concept is very important. Consistency is important but is not like the majority of the apps are GTK3 (or whatever is latest) with the GNOME styles even if those GNOME designers pretend nothing else exists and nobody should remove the GNOME branding from the GNOME apps. Just want to mention that GNOME are the bad guys, KDE distributions will provide GNOME integration with packages and themes that attempt to keep Qt and GTK application consistent in look and feel but I never seen GNOME distros attempt to integrate with the non-GNOME apps.
- sph 5y ago
  > GNOME are the bad guys Just because you disagree with them, it doesn't make them the "bad guys".
  - jrm4 5y ago
    Right. What actually makes them the bad guys is that they parlayed the goodwill of the original GNOME (2 and prior) which was very open to change and community contribution into the restrictive community hostile thing that it is today. I don't mind that it exists, but they should have changed the name and been more clear about the direction. And should just be less obnoxious all around.
    - spindle 5y ago
      Good point which I hadn't thought of. I really like GNOME 4 for my own workflow, but it doesn't have much in common with GNOME 2.
      - pantalaimon 5y ago
        MATE is carrying on the torch
  - _2paq 5y ago
    They're making their desktop environment and apps into a walled garden on a platform like Linux. Most GTK4 apps won't be usable outside the intended desktop environment for which they're built. They also engage in carefully crafted doublespeak when it comes to things like extensions and user choice regarding configuration. Call it what you want but they certainly don't intend to play nice with anyone and have adopted the approach of "my way or the highway". Perhaps they're emboldened by all the corporate backing they have from Red Hat and SUSE. They also have the advantage of being the default DE on most distros. Hell, even distros like NixOS encourage users to use GNOME, which is absolutely insane when you think about it.
    - 5y ago
xfiderek 5y ago
https://docs.usebottles.com/faq/why-bottles#why-not-just-pol-or-lutris https://docs.usebottles.com/faq/why-bottles#why-not-just-pol...
brnt 5y ago
Re consistency: Am I the only that finds all those burgerbuttons and cluttered window frames (I think they may even call them decorations!) anything but? Give me a title bar and good old many bars please.

29athrowaway 5y ago

Lutris is focused mostly on games and options that benefit games.

nicce 5y ago
You can run manually any application you want. It just does not offer one-click install for non-games. I believe lutris offers better runner configuration.

greggh 5y ago

If you look at the screenshots, the very first screenshot says it is using Lutris as a "runner".

mrtnpwn 5y ago
It has a runner manager so you can choose whatever WINE runner you like. Default is just the vanilla runtime.

Jnr 5y ago

Lutris is great, but the UI is not as polished, and is probably still geared towards more advanced users.

simion314 5y ago

>Say what you will about GTK and Gnome... for beginners on an operating system such as Ubuntu, having a consistent application concept is very important. Consistency is important but is not like the majority of the apps are GTK3 (or whatever is latest) with the GNOME styles even if those GNOME designers pretend nothing else exists and nobody should remove the GNOME branding from the GNOME apps. Just want to mention that GNOME are the bad guys, KDE distributions will provide GNOME integration with packages and themes that attempt to keep Qt and GTK application consistent in look and feel but I never seen GNOME distros attempt to integrate with the non-GNOME apps.

sph 5y ago
> GNOME are the bad guys Just because you disagree with them, it doesn't make them the "bad guys".
- jrm4 5y ago
  Right. What actually makes them the bad guys is that they parlayed the goodwill of the original GNOME (2 and prior) which was very open to change and community contribution into the restrictive community hostile thing that it is today. I don't mind that it exists, but they should have changed the name and been more clear about the direction. And should just be less obnoxious all around.
  - spindle 5y ago
    Good point which I hadn't thought of. I really like GNOME 4 for my own workflow, but it doesn't have much in common with GNOME 2.
    - pantalaimon 5y ago
      MATE is carrying on the torch
- _2paq 5y ago
  They're making their desktop environment and apps into a walled garden on a platform like Linux. Most GTK4 apps won't be usable outside the intended desktop environment for which they're built. They also engage in carefully crafted doublespeak when it comes to things like extensions and user choice regarding configuration. Call it what you want but they certainly don't intend to play nice with anyone and have adopted the approach of "my way or the highway". Perhaps they're emboldened by all the corporate backing they have from Red Hat and SUSE. They also have the advantage of being the default DE on most distros. Hell, even distros like NixOS encourage users to use GNOME, which is absolutely insane when you think about it.
  - 5y ago

xfiderek 5y ago

https://docs.usebottles.com/faq/why-bottles#why-not-just-pol-or-lutris https://docs.usebottles.com/faq/why-bottles#why-not-just-pol...

brnt 5y ago

Re consistency: Am I the only that finds all those burgerbuttons and cluttered window frames (I think they may even call them decorations!) anything but? Give me a title bar and good old many bars please.