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Are you arguing that any IDE must contain JRE?

• simondotau 5y ago
  What an odd question. No. I was merely expressing surprise that someone would consider a copy of JRE in a big IDE like Xcode to be outrageous. I don't think it's outrageous. Saying that something isn't outrageous isn't synonymous with saying that it's a "must".
  • viktorcode 5y ago
    I agree, I should have worded that differently. My point is an IDE isn't entitled to have yet another runtime which is not used for core functionality just because it is an IDE. I call it outrageous because the task itself (uploading to App Store Connect) don't require a separate runtime. It's likely an artefact from the past or convenience vehicle for whoever wrote it; another example of developer's convenience trumping user experience.
    • simondotau 5y ago
      Personally I think it's outrageous that Apple doesn't maintain and distribute OpenJDK as part of macOS. Wouldn't even require much internal effort—they could just throw a bit of money at Adopt (or similar) to maintain it. It would also be a download-on-first-use thing, much like Rosetta 2 or Xcode command line tools. Latest version only, updated regularly, updates delivered similarly to Safari Technology Preview. If you need a specific version, download it yourself.