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> they are lying and misreprenting themselves The police does that quite often to catch criminals. Sometimes they also target innocent people, is that ethical?
by brabel 5y ago
> they are lying and misreprenting themselves
The police does that quite often to catch criminals. Sometimes they also target innocent people, is that ethical?
People on HN don't usually lie, I hope, but most "misrepresent" themselves using anonymous accounts, sometimes claiming to be more than they actually are (I know, shocking).
Emails you receive are more likely to be scams than not. If you're like the author and freaks out at legally-sounding emails (or phone calls, discussion forum comments etc) received from random people, you're going to be a really stressed, anxious person your whole life.
- lysium 5y ago> The police does that quite often to catch criminals. Sometimes they also target innocent people, is that ethical? This should tell you something about your police, not about ethics.
- kube-system 5y agoAcademic research has a well established and formal set of ethics rules. These rules are not as established or strict for other professions.
- nr2x 5y agospecifically, deception studies are really hard to get approved - and for good reason. looks like this wasn't properly reviewed.
- josefx 5y ago"Hard to get approved" my ass. The attacks on the Linux code review process with real harm code and zero safeguards against successfully hijacking a production kernel got approved and the review board even reaffirmed its decision when confronted about it, as far as I remember by claiming that the study wasn't focused medical issues. Did this study focus on medical issues? If not then at least one review board out there would rubber stamp it.
- nr2x 5y agoBecause one IRB makes a bad decision doesn't mean, in general, deception studies are easy to get approved. Furthermore, this study used an "no human subjects" exemption to avoid a full review - which should not have happened. The Linux code attack study has also roundly criticized in the research community because it was such an abnormal failure of IRB.
- josefx 5y ago> The Linux code attack study has also roundly criticized in the research community because it was such an abnormal failure of IRB. So how is the board doing? Did its members face any consequences at all or are they still there ready to rubber stamp the next study with full approval and flimsy excuses?
- dudeman13 5y ago>The police does that quite often to catch criminals Your country should crackdown on police behaviour.