No, sorry. I meant in user polish. Squeak/pharo for me are a mess. The code browser has a variety of inconsistent and frankly just too many menu options. So it

No, sorry. I meant in user polish. Squeak/pharo for me are a mess. The code browser has a variety of inconsistent and frankly just too many menu options. So it becomes not just live code experiment, it becomes a live user interface experiment at the same time. This kind of thing leads to “too many experiments/agendas at the same time” effect (for me).