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I agree with you that parent's post is lacking context and a bit crude on arguments, but i believe the message is pretty clear: it's bad doing violent and one c

I agree with you that parent's post is lacking context and a bit crude on arguments, but i believe the message is pretty clear: it's bad doing violent and one could say anti-social politics instead of pro-social politics (whatever they are, let's not get into details). I fully believe that: yeah sure your opponents hide as civilians somehow because that's an effective tactic, so you have to admit you've lost: you cannot use force, because you're not able to (because you're too far, you're not understanding what's happening etc). Just stop doing wars you should have no business in. Eg in which your only business is just defending some aspect of your current power (some times completely unrelated to the proxy).

refurb 5y ago
So you’re saying the US should just look at ISIS and say “not our problem”? Should the US have done that in WW2? Korea?
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- kingofpandora 5y ago
  ISIS emerged because the US decided to topple the governments of Iraq in the 200s and Syria in the 2010s.
  - refurb 5y ago
    Believe it or not, the Arab world can develop their own home grown terrorists just we we can. Don’t lay the blame of every social I’ll on the west. The Arab governments themselves have been fighting domestic terrorists for decades.
    - American12143 5y ago
      The U.S. helped middle eastern governments kill every leftist in their countries in the Cold War and was vital in installing many of these regressive dictatorships, particularly in the Persian Gulf.
    - 20after4 5y ago
      Domestic terrorists in the arab world isn't any of our (U.S.) business. They became our problem when we meddled in their business enough to motivate them to come after us. The US foreign policy created the problem, it could have largely been avoided.
    - ljf 5y ago
      Why might that be? Read up about how the West has been destabilising govt there for the best part of a century now, for oil (really accelerated after ww2, and what we did to Iran in the 60s...)
    - kingofpandora 5y ago
      > The Arab governments themselves have been fighting domestic terrorists for decades. Interestingly, those were the governments that the US sought to overthrow.
- tata71 5y ago
  Probably.

refurb 5y ago

So you’re saying the US should just look at ISIS and say “not our problem”? Should the US have done that in WW2? Korea?

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kingofpandora 5y ago
ISIS emerged because the US decided to topple the governments of Iraq in the 200s and Syria in the 2010s.
- refurb 5y ago
  Believe it or not, the Arab world can develop their own home grown terrorists just we we can. Don’t lay the blame of every social I’ll on the west. The Arab governments themselves have been fighting domestic terrorists for decades.
  - American12143 5y ago
    The U.S. helped middle eastern governments kill every leftist in their countries in the Cold War and was vital in installing many of these regressive dictatorships, particularly in the Persian Gulf.
  - 20after4 5y ago
    Domestic terrorists in the arab world isn't any of our (U.S.) business. They became our problem when we meddled in their business enough to motivate them to come after us. The US foreign policy created the problem, it could have largely been avoided.
  - ljf 5y ago
    Why might that be? Read up about how the West has been destabilising govt there for the best part of a century now, for oil (really accelerated after ww2, and what we did to Iran in the 60s...)
  - kingofpandora 5y ago
    > The Arab governments themselves have been fighting domestic terrorists for decades. Interestingly, those were the governments that the US sought to overthrow.
tata71 5y ago
Probably.