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Russia invaded Ukraine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_W

Russia invaded Ukraine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War ), captured Crime and there is ongoing conflict in Eastern Ukraine. Russia invaided also Georgia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War ), with direct trigger caused by South Ossetian separatists but Russia was clearly prepared for war. China has ongoing invasion of Bhutan by simply building roads and military bases in that country ( https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/07/china-bhutan-border-villages-security-forces/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/07/china-bhutan-border-vil... ) China-India relation thankfully not reached invasion level but see say https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%93India_skirmishes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%... Believing that USA is perfect is delusional but your comment has multiple blatant lies.

American12143 5y ago
Okay...and? I said that neither China nor Russia are good actors (when I said invasions, I meant active ones, but I get your point), however, the U.S. is worse. -The Russian invasion of both Ukraine and Georgia, summed together, had a civilian deathtoll of 4000+ -If we throw in the first/second Chechen war as well, we get a TOTAL civilian deathtoll of ~70k+ The U.S. killed 500k+ CHILDREN (not even accounting for adult civilians) with its Iraq sanctions (before the invasion), this is just ONE country of the MANY countries the U.S. has been a participant in destabilizing in the last two decades (and we're not even talking about Korea/Vietnam/supplying Saddam with chemical weapons/Gulf War/South American interventions) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8 If you want to look at it from a per capita standpoint, the U.S. has killed far, far more civilians than Russia has (not that this justifies even the death of a SINGLE civilian), but one must objectively come to the realization that the U.S. is the biggest force for civilian mass murder in the world. You can dress it up as "it was for democracy and freedom", but I don't think anyone buys that anymore. They don't even sell it to us as that anymore, now its for "national security", which is the same excuse Russia and China make as well.
DSingularity 5y ago
Don’t forget the Chinese oppression of the uighur. The scale is terrifying.
artificialLimbs 5y ago
Don't forget about Tibet - violently occupied by China since the.. what, 50's?
str12 5y ago
Your comment is worse. India commits multiple incursions across the border - this news was spilled by India's former Army chief. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/india-has-transgressed-into-lac-more-times-than-china-says-v-k-singh/article33774108.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/india-has-...

American12143 5y ago

Okay...and? I said that neither China nor Russia are good actors (when I said invasions, I meant active ones, but I get your point), however, the U.S. is worse. -The Russian invasion of both Ukraine and Georgia, summed together, had a civilian deathtoll of 4000+ -If we throw in the first/second Chechen war as well, we get a TOTAL civilian deathtoll of ~70k+ The U.S. killed 500k+ CHILDREN (not even accounting for adult civilians) with its Iraq sanctions (before the invasion), this is just ONE country of the MANY countries the U.S. has been a participant in destabilizing in the last two decades (and we're not even talking about Korea/Vietnam/supplying Saddam with chemical weapons/Gulf War/South American interventions) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8 If you want to look at it from a per capita standpoint, the U.S. has killed far, far more civilians than Russia has (not that this justifies even the death of a SINGLE civilian), but one must objectively come to the realization that the U.S. is the biggest force for civilian mass murder in the world. You can dress it up as "it was for democracy and freedom", but I don't think anyone buys that anymore. They don't even sell it to us as that anymore, now its for "national security", which is the same excuse Russia and China make as well.

DSingularity 5y ago

Don’t forget the Chinese oppression of the uighur. The scale is terrifying.

artificialLimbs 5y ago

Don't forget about Tibet - violently occupied by China since the.. what, 50's?

str12 5y ago

Your comment is worse. India commits multiple incursions across the border - this news was spilled by India's former Army chief. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/india-has-transgressed-into-lac-more-times-than-china-says-v-k-singh/article33774108.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/india-has-...