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> Civil asset forfeiture encourages criminality in police. If you'll forgive a moment of polemic: In my judgment, civil-asset forfeiture is a crime, full-stop.

> Civil asset forfeiture encourages criminality in police. If you'll forgive a moment of polemic: In my judgment, civil-asset forfeiture is a crime, full-stop. As a regular citizen without special legal training, it seems like as blatant a violation of the 5th Amendment as one could imagine. Perhaps with more legal training I'd judge it differently. But I'm not ready to give the court system the benefit of the doubt on this. And I would be deeply skeptical of any argument to the contrary. If the SCOTUS can justify civil-asset forfeiture (in its current form), then I don't see how the Bill of Rights offers any protection at all.

nescioquid 5y ago
> As a regular citizen without special legal training... Living in a free society or not, you are fit to judge the rectitude of the law. To suggest otherwise implies a servile relationship of the citizen to the state. All manner of abominable laws have existed and been upheld under all forms of the US constitution. Qualified advocates argued against, and supreme court judges ruled against Dred Scott (7 - 2), for instance. As long as it has existed, the supreme court has been in a crisis of legitimacy, and upholding the appearance of legitimacy has been its prima causa. What separates you and a fine judgement of what is just? Three years of sophistical "scholarship" and two summers of internships?
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hellojesus 5y ago
It is a violation of the constitution full stop. Also, TSA gets kickbacks from homeland security. If they see large sums of cash in your bags, they will contact the police in order to try and get it taken via civil asset forfeiture, and then they'll get a kickback for it. I plan to start traveling with wads of prop money with a couple hundreds on the outside to get a lel out of the interaction when the cops inevitably show up to try and confiscate it.

nescioquid 5y ago

> As a regular citizen without special legal training... Living in a free society or not, you are fit to judge the rectitude of the law. To suggest otherwise implies a servile relationship of the citizen to the state. All manner of abominable laws have existed and been upheld under all forms of the US constitution. Qualified advocates argued against, and supreme court judges ruled against Dred Scott (7 - 2), for instance. As long as it has existed, the supreme court has been in a crisis of legitimacy, and upholding the appearance of legitimacy has been its prima causa. What separates you and a fine judgement of what is just? Three years of sophistical "scholarship" and two summers of internships?

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hellojesus 5y ago

It is a violation of the constitution full stop. Also, TSA gets kickbacks from homeland security. If they see large sums of cash in your bags, they will contact the police in order to try and get it taken via civil asset forfeiture, and then they'll get a kickback for it. I plan to start traveling with wads of prop money with a couple hundreds on the outside to get a lel out of the interaction when the cops inevitably show up to try and confiscate it.