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Right now this Web3 "solution" seems completely divorced from the problem. Right now the big "problem" we have is that the big tech companies hold way too much

Right now this Web3 "solution" seems completely divorced from the problem. Right now the big "problem" we have is that the big tech companies hold way too much power to control speech. I don't understand how Web3 is supposed to solve this problem. The real solution IMO is the Metaverse. Rather than a centralized authority with control over all the content, everyone would contribute to a protocol, much like email works. This I feel will kill the debate (as in, resolve it forever) over speech online. It's not that censorship will go away, I'm sure some providers will try to censor content, but it will be a non issue, cause you can just go and get the same content from another provider.

krapp 5y ago
>The real solution IMO is the Metaverse. Rather than a centralized authority with control over all the content, everyone would contribute to a protocol, much like email works. The Metaverse will be controlled by Facebook, which will define the protocol and control all of the content. If you want some kind of decentralized, Mastadon-like network for VR, that would be a completely different thing which (as far as I know) no one has actually made yet, not the Metaverse. But the Metaverse everyone will use will absolutely be controlled by Facebook, and if not them, Microsoft or some other centralizing entity.
- logic_beats_pro 5y ago
  _A_ Metaverse will be controlled by Facebook. One will be controlled by Microsoft, one will be controlled by NVIDIA, many will be decentralized using blockchain technologies like Web3. I see no reason to give the term to Facebook, just because they announced their product first. It's an arms race and Facebook merely fired the first shot.
  - krapp 5y ago
    No one was even talking about the "metaverse" until Facebook mentioned it. After Facebook mentioned it, no one was talking about anything other than what Facebook (or Meta) would do with it. Anyone looking to provide services or create content for the Metaverse is focusing on Facebook. All of the discussion on Hacker News about the metaverse is relative to Facebook. There is no arms race here. There won't be many "decentralized" versions "using blockchain technologies." Maybe there will be one, and as with all other decentralized alternatives to social media, most people won't care about it. Everyone else will be using Facebook's version because everyone is already using Facebook and they already own the cultural mindshare. No one cares about NVIDIA's Omniverse. Maybe Apple or Microsoft or Google also offer versions, but all of them will be centralized. Sorry, you've already lost. And Web3 is just a scam.
    - AlchemistCamp 5y ago
      People have been talking about building the metaverse since Neil Stevenson coined the term in Snow Crash in 1992. > "Sorry, you've already lost. And Web3 is just a scam." Generic dismissals like that aren't helpful.

krapp 5y ago

>The real solution IMO is the Metaverse. Rather than a centralized authority with control over all the content, everyone would contribute to a protocol, much like email works. The Metaverse will be controlled by Facebook, which will define the protocol and control all of the content. If you want some kind of decentralized, Mastadon-like network for VR, that would be a completely different thing which (as far as I know) no one has actually made yet, not the Metaverse. But the Metaverse everyone will use will absolutely be controlled by Facebook, and if not them, Microsoft or some other centralizing entity.

logic_beats_pro 5y ago
_A_ Metaverse will be controlled by Facebook. One will be controlled by Microsoft, one will be controlled by NVIDIA, many will be decentralized using blockchain technologies like Web3. I see no reason to give the term to Facebook, just because they announced their product first. It's an arms race and Facebook merely fired the first shot.
- krapp 5y ago
  No one was even talking about the "metaverse" until Facebook mentioned it. After Facebook mentioned it, no one was talking about anything other than what Facebook (or Meta) would do with it. Anyone looking to provide services or create content for the Metaverse is focusing on Facebook. All of the discussion on Hacker News about the metaverse is relative to Facebook. There is no arms race here. There won't be many "decentralized" versions "using blockchain technologies." Maybe there will be one, and as with all other decentralized alternatives to social media, most people won't care about it. Everyone else will be using Facebook's version because everyone is already using Facebook and they already own the cultural mindshare. No one cares about NVIDIA's Omniverse. Maybe Apple or Microsoft or Google also offer versions, but all of them will be centralized. Sorry, you've already lost. And Web3 is just a scam.
  - AlchemistCamp 5y ago
    People have been talking about building the metaverse since Neil Stevenson coined the term in Snow Crash in 1992. > "Sorry, you've already lost. And Web3 is just a scam." Generic dismissals like that aren't helpful.