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for most political reforms it seems the news media purposely chooses the most polarizing examples of the problem to highlight. Does not matter if police reform

by syshum 5y ago

for most political reforms it seems the news media purposely chooses the most polarizing examples of the problem to highlight. Does not matter if police reform, abortion, welfare, or any other topic, the media chooses the examples that will most upset those opposing the reform. This results in nothing getting reform, maintaining the status quo, and the media;s reoccurring revenue stream The nation is hopelessly polarized as a direct result of media propaganda, I have encountered this everyday and when people are giving actual non-sensationalized facts it is very easy to come to compromise policy position.

salimmadjd 5y ago
The same polarizing media conveniently blamed Facebook and Twitter (though to a lesser extent) for all the polarization that they have been fomenting for years. I guess that move wasn’t as surprising for me as seeing the number of people in SV who bought into that narrative. Corporate media should not really be thought of as real journalistic entities. Simple example. How in the world does CNN allow Chris Cuomo to interview his own brother. The fact that no one inside CNN publicly objected to this, walked away, protested, it tells me everything I need to know about the entire organization. I don’t remember anyone at MSNBC making a fuss about it, nor at the Washington Post (Democracy Dies in Darkness).
- kurthr 5y ago
  Hmmm, yeah no. Whether it's Vanity Fair or other "liberal scions", they're as likely to point out the issues with this sort of self-serving coverage as your favorite hand wringer on Fox News, who themselves are almost entirely "entertainment" and have so much obvious conflict of interest in their coverage... and if the Jan 6 SMS messages are to be believed, simple out right lying. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/03/02/chris-cuomo-andrew-cuomo-cnn-disclosure/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/03/02/chris-cuo...
- zimpenfish 5y ago
  > How in the world does CNN allow Chris Cuomo to interview his own brother. To be fair to CNN, they did ban that from 2013 until it was temporarily lifted in 2020 because "Chris speaking with his brother about the challenges of what millions of American families were struggling with was of significant human interest"[1]. It was definitely a bad judgement call but hardly damning of the whole organisation. [1] https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/02/19/cnns-chris-cuomo-can-no-longer-interview-brother-gov-andrew-cuomo/4504315001/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/02/19/cn...
2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
I've stuck to here, New Yorker, NYT, and The Atlantic, I've stayed off of social media, I don't have cable and I don't watch TV. This site's articles and comments are often the most polarizing media that I subject myself to daily. I think most polarization comes from media packaged with a comment section and low quality news outlets.
- syshum 5y ago
  If the only news media on consume is New Yorker, NYT and The Atlantic (all of which are rated as Left Bias news sources) then you are likely already in an echo chamber, so when exposed to a non-echo chamber source with comments (like HN) you come way with a false attribution as to what is propaganda, and what the source of that propaganda is
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  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
    I think you're in the "New Yorker, NYT, and The Atlantic are echo chambers" echo chamber. I don't believe or agree with everything that I read. I also read a fair amount of different opinions in these sources which leads me to believe it's more varied than you would like to believe. It's interesting because I've always considered myself center/center right politically.
    - syshum 5y ago
      My position on those organizations political bias is from ratings by several independent organizations such as Ground News (but not only them) which I have been using more recently. I read 100's of news sources weekly, and if topic I want information on I drill down beyond the news organization seeking out orginal sources (for example if a news organization is reporting on a COVID Study, I read the study. If they are reporting on the 6th circuits ruling, I go read the ruling.. etc) It is ironic that someone the proudly proclaims they only consume information from 3 sources proclaims I am in an echo chamber but they could never be... lol As for my political leanings, I more of a Political Compass person where by economics is Left/Right, under which I am almost exactly in the enter, but social is on a Authority / Liberty scale, of which I am on the extreme end of the liberty scale

by syshum 5y ago

salimmadjd 5y ago

The same polarizing media conveniently blamed Facebook and Twitter (though to a lesser extent) for all the polarization that they have been fomenting for years. I guess that move wasn’t as surprising for me as seeing the number of people in SV who bought into that narrative. Corporate media should not really be thought of as real journalistic entities. Simple example. How in the world does CNN allow Chris Cuomo to interview his own brother. The fact that no one inside CNN publicly objected to this, walked away, protested, it tells me everything I need to know about the entire organization. I don’t remember anyone at MSNBC making a fuss about it, nor at the Washington Post (Democracy Dies in Darkness).

kurthr 5y ago
Hmmm, yeah no. Whether it's Vanity Fair or other "liberal scions", they're as likely to point out the issues with this sort of self-serving coverage as your favorite hand wringer on Fox News, who themselves are almost entirely "entertainment" and have so much obvious conflict of interest in their coverage... and if the Jan 6 SMS messages are to be believed, simple out right lying. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/03/02/chris-cuomo-andrew-cuomo-cnn-disclosure/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/03/02/chris-cuo...
zimpenfish 5y ago
> How in the world does CNN allow Chris Cuomo to interview his own brother. To be fair to CNN, they did ban that from 2013 until it was temporarily lifted in 2020 because "Chris speaking with his brother about the challenges of what millions of American families were struggling with was of significant human interest"[1]. It was definitely a bad judgement call but hardly damning of the whole organisation. [1] https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/02/19/cnns-chris-cuomo-can-no-longer-interview-brother-gov-andrew-cuomo/4504315001/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/02/19/cn...

2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago

I've stuck to here, New Yorker, NYT, and The Atlantic, I've stayed off of social media, I don't have cable and I don't watch TV. This site's articles and comments are often the most polarizing media that I subject myself to daily. I think most polarization comes from media packaged with a comment section and low quality news outlets.

syshum 5y ago
If the only news media on consume is New Yorker, NYT and The Atlantic (all of which are rated as Left Bias news sources) then you are likely already in an echo chamber, so when exposed to a non-echo chamber source with comments (like HN) you come way with a false attribution as to what is propaganda, and what the source of that propaganda is
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- 2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
  I think you're in the "New Yorker, NYT, and The Atlantic are echo chambers" echo chamber. I don't believe or agree with everything that I read. I also read a fair amount of different opinions in these sources which leads me to believe it's more varied than you would like to believe. It's interesting because I've always considered myself center/center right politically.
  - syshum 5y ago
    My position on those organizations political bias is from ratings by several independent organizations such as Ground News (but not only them) which I have been using more recently. I read 100's of news sources weekly, and if topic I want information on I drill down beyond the news organization seeking out orginal sources (for example if a news organization is reporting on a COVID Study, I read the study. If they are reporting on the 6th circuits ruling, I go read the ruling.. etc) It is ironic that someone the proudly proclaims they only consume information from 3 sources proclaims I am in an echo chamber but they could never be... lol As for my political leanings, I more of a Political Compass person where by economics is Left/Right, under which I am almost exactly in the enter, but social is on a Authority / Liberty scale, of which I am on the extreme end of the liberty scale