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No offense but this is a recently formed opinion. If you asked any Obama-era progressives, they would be shocked at what you’re saying. Proof from NYT: https:/

No offense but this is a recently formed opinion. If you asked any Obama-era progressives, they would be shocked at what you’re saying. Proof from NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/us/politics/obama-woke-cancel-culture.amp.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/us/politics/obama-woke-ca... My family moved here with $8000. I went to college for free (HOPE scholarship). I’ve been listening to centrist republicans and my vote is going to go for them. Possibly forever unless Democrats fix this wokeness.

nobodyandproud 5y ago
“biggest enemy is a white liberal”: https://www.thetimesnews.com/story/opinion/columns/2019/01/04/editorial-blacks-biggest-enemy-is-white-liberal/984897007/ https://www.thetimesnews.com/story/opinion/columns/2019/01/0... When I was younger, I had a hard time understanding Malcolm X’s position; but individuals like Clarence Thomas and the ongoings of the 2020s have made it very clear. I’d love to see moderate Republicans and the “equal opportunity” Black caucus find more common ground here. Why? From first-hand experience (non-white) I can also attest to the racism of the liberal camp being present and more insidious.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  Most centrist Republicans value equality. They've moved further left to capture the moderates. The problem is the Berkeley progressives (the extreme left) has no concession in their sights. They want to tear down institutions and gut it out. Kind of how the cryto currency guys want to start seasteading and destroy the US Federal Gov but entirely on a different axis. I find race discussion from Columbia University linguist and NYTimes Columnist, John McWhorter, fascinating and profoundly pragmatic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQj5bkUeAc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQj5bkUeAc I am so worn out from all this. Living here in Oakland, I cannot, absolutely will not raise my children here. Actively seeking jobs in Texas, Florida, Colorado, Georgia and North Carolina.
  - nebula8804 5y ago
    You know its funny I recently visited LA for the very first time for two weeks. (Im from the east coast). I was expecting a barren waste land because of all the talk from Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro about how terrible LA is. Instead what I found was a busting city with a lot of nice and interesting people from all walks of life. Did I see homeless? Yes, it was uncomfortable but after visiting many neighborhoods I came to realize that this right wing bashing of liberal places is exaggerated. California has a lot of problems and looking at the stats, it is actively losing population of people who make less than 100k. This is not good long term but honestly Texas or wherever else would have these same problems if they had this kind of economic gold rush in such a short amount of time. At the same time though it is not as bad as the right wingers seem to make it out to be. If the Liberals are to be blamed for losing people, its because of decades of promises and not ever delivering.
- nebula8804 5y ago
  Ha! This has been happening a lot longer than the 2020s. Its really a class issue not a race issue. The culture war is a distraction that allows the upper classes to continue the status quo. Sure we might have a pendulum swing to more right wing authoritarianism or we might move even further left wing woke but going back to moderate is a pipe dream because it ignores the fundamental issues that caused us to end up here in the first place: namely lack of fundamental reform.
nebula8804 5y ago
First of all none of what I said has anything to do with 'wokeism' so your link is not relevant at all. I am simply looking at the statistics of people who manage to successfully arrive here and how they fared afterwards. The immigration process to this country is extremely hard. Therefore it is self selecting of people who are willing to make that effort to get through the process. You do not understand the context in which others grow up in this country. Thats where your ignorance is coming from. Too many people have a lack of historical knowledge of race relations in this country, especially immigrants. many immigrants tend to be republicans out of ignorance. My family was too(they were single issue voters eg. Republicans would leave their home country alone). They do not know the history of the modern Republican party and what many of its leadership have done in the past. The Democrats are not some rosy heaven either but on many of the core issues, immigrants are shooting themselves in the foot long term by going Republican. Wokeness is an extreme response to lack of fundamental change occurring over the last few decades. It has now mutated into this current monstrosity because people like Obama do nothing but pay lip-service. It has now boiled over into something...anything that can affect change, even if it is destructive. Wokeness is not sustainable but nonetheless it is now used as a rallying cry for the right wing to make up for their own declining cultural influence. Frankly I don't care for wokeness but I would never join the other side because as a minority and child of immigrants, I know I have no place there.

nobodyandproud 5y ago

“biggest enemy is a white liberal”: https://www.thetimesnews.com/story/opinion/columns/2019/01/04/editorial-blacks-biggest-enemy-is-white-liberal/984897007/ https://www.thetimesnews.com/story/opinion/columns/2019/01/0... When I was younger, I had a hard time understanding Malcolm X’s position; but individuals like Clarence Thomas and the ongoings of the 2020s have made it very clear. I’d love to see moderate Republicans and the “equal opportunity” Black caucus find more common ground here. Why? From first-hand experience (non-white) I can also attest to the racism of the liberal camp being present and more insidious.

systemvoltage 5y ago
Most centrist Republicans value equality. They've moved further left to capture the moderates. The problem is the Berkeley progressives (the extreme left) has no concession in their sights. They want to tear down institutions and gut it out. Kind of how the cryto currency guys want to start seasteading and destroy the US Federal Gov but entirely on a different axis. I find race discussion from Columbia University linguist and NYTimes Columnist, John McWhorter, fascinating and profoundly pragmatic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQj5bkUeAc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gQj5bkUeAc I am so worn out from all this. Living here in Oakland, I cannot, absolutely will not raise my children here. Actively seeking jobs in Texas, Florida, Colorado, Georgia and North Carolina.
- nebula8804 5y ago
  You know its funny I recently visited LA for the very first time for two weeks. (Im from the east coast). I was expecting a barren waste land because of all the talk from Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro about how terrible LA is. Instead what I found was a busting city with a lot of nice and interesting people from all walks of life. Did I see homeless? Yes, it was uncomfortable but after visiting many neighborhoods I came to realize that this right wing bashing of liberal places is exaggerated. California has a lot of problems and looking at the stats, it is actively losing population of people who make less than 100k. This is not good long term but honestly Texas or wherever else would have these same problems if they had this kind of economic gold rush in such a short amount of time. At the same time though it is not as bad as the right wingers seem to make it out to be. If the Liberals are to be blamed for losing people, its because of decades of promises and not ever delivering.
nebula8804 5y ago
Ha! This has been happening a lot longer than the 2020s. Its really a class issue not a race issue. The culture war is a distraction that allows the upper classes to continue the status quo. Sure we might have a pendulum swing to more right wing authoritarianism or we might move even further left wing woke but going back to moderate is a pipe dream because it ignores the fundamental issues that caused us to end up here in the first place: namely lack of fundamental reform.

nebula8804 5y ago

First of all none of what I said has anything to do with 'wokeism' so your link is not relevant at all. I am simply looking at the statistics of people who manage to successfully arrive here and how they fared afterwards. The immigration process to this country is extremely hard. Therefore it is self selecting of people who are willing to make that effort to get through the process. You do not understand the context in which others grow up in this country. Thats where your ignorance is coming from. Too many people have a lack of historical knowledge of race relations in this country, especially immigrants. many immigrants tend to be republicans out of ignorance. My family was too(they were single issue voters eg. Republicans would leave their home country alone). They do not know the history of the modern Republican party and what many of its leadership have done in the past. The Democrats are not some rosy heaven either but on many of the core issues, immigrants are shooting themselves in the foot long term by going Republican. Wokeness is an extreme response to lack of fundamental change occurring over the last few decades. It has now mutated into this current monstrosity because people like Obama do nothing but pay lip-service. It has now boiled over into something...anything that can affect change, even if it is destructive. Wokeness is not sustainable but nonetheless it is now used as a rallying cry for the right wing to make up for their own declining cultural influence. Frankly I don't care for wokeness but I would never join the other side because as a minority and child of immigrants, I know I have no place there.