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This ignores the fact that there are other religious reasons to oppose it, such as the fact that fetal cell lines from aborted fetuses were used to test the vac

This ignores the fact that there are other religious reasons to oppose it, such as the fact that fetal cell lines from aborted fetuses were used to test the vaccine.

goodoldneon 5y ago
- bitlax 5y ago
  And you're flat wrong about that. The typical response as pointed out by the Biden Administration has been "I wasn't aware of that but now that I am I will not use those products as well."
- dukeofdoom 5y ago
  If they didn't know about it before, and only found out about it now, than they can simply state that going forward they will stop using these too. Not really hypocritically or a contradiction.
ulfw 5y ago
jonathankoren 5y ago
This is a lie. None of the covid vaccines contain aborted fetuses. Even when vaccines have used fetal cells lines, the cells were harvested from from 50 years ago. Pfizer https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-529913215948 https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-529913215948 Johnson & Johnson https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-johnson-aborted-idUSL1N2LU1T9 https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-johnson-aborted-id... Moderna’s RNA did not use this http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/media/Coronavirus/docs/vaccine/VaccineDevelopment_FetalCellLines.pdf http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/media/Coronavirus/docs/vacc... Even the Pope, head of the one of the most staunchest antiabortion religions, has gone on record saying that it is the duty of all Catholics to get vaccinated if possible, as all individuals have a collective duty each other. https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20201221_nota-vaccini-anticovid_en.html https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/docu... The sad fact is, it has become a political game to refuse a covid vaccine, as opposed to all vaccines. There is no difference between these vaccines and the countless others all of us have received — and were required to receive — in our lives.
- RKearney 5y ago
  I never said they contained them. I literally said "used to test the vaccine." Religions that oppose abortion typically don't have a statute of limitations on when the cells from them are okay to use to grow cell lines to use in testing.
  - jonathankoren 5y ago
    > Religions that oppose abortion typically don't have a statute of limitations on when the cells from them are okay to use to grow cell lines to use in testing. You literally just made this up. I cited the pope himself. Using abortion as a complaint about vaccines is disingenuous, and it deserves to be treated as such. If this was the case, we wouldn’t be hearing about this in 2021, it would have been well known for 40 years. The sad truth is, evangelicals didn’t care about abortion until they lost segregation as a political rallying point. https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734303135/throughline-traces-evangelicals-history-on-the-abortion-issue https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734303135/throughline-traces-... I repeat. The whole complaint is a lie.

This ignores the fact that there are other religious reasons to oppose it, such as the fact that fetal cell lines from aborted fetuses were used to test the vaccine.

goodoldneon 5y ago

bitlax 5y ago
And you're flat wrong about that. The typical response as pointed out by the Biden Administration has been "I wasn't aware of that but now that I am I will not use those products as well."
dukeofdoom 5y ago
If they didn't know about it before, and only found out about it now, than they can simply state that going forward they will stop using these too. Not really hypocritically or a contradiction.

ulfw 5y ago

jonathankoren 5y ago

This is a lie. None of the covid vaccines contain aborted fetuses. Even when vaccines have used fetal cells lines, the cells were harvested from from 50 years ago. Pfizer https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-529913215948 https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-529913215948 Johnson & Johnson https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-johnson-aborted-idUSL1N2LU1T9 https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-johnson-aborted-id... Moderna’s RNA did not use this http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/media/Coronavirus/docs/vaccine/VaccineDevelopment_FetalCellLines.pdf http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/media/Coronavirus/docs/vacc... Even the Pope, head of the one of the most staunchest antiabortion religions, has gone on record saying that it is the duty of all Catholics to get vaccinated if possible, as all individuals have a collective duty each other. https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20201221_nota-vaccini-anticovid_en.html https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/docu... The sad fact is, it has become a political game to refuse a covid vaccine, as opposed to all vaccines. There is no difference between these vaccines and the countless others all of us have received — and were required to receive — in our lives.

RKearney 5y ago
I never said they contained them. I literally said "used to test the vaccine." Religions that oppose abortion typically don't have a statute of limitations on when the cells from them are okay to use to grow cell lines to use in testing.
- jonathankoren 5y ago
  > Religions that oppose abortion typically don't have a statute of limitations on when the cells from them are okay to use to grow cell lines to use in testing. You literally just made this up. I cited the pope himself. Using abortion as a complaint about vaccines is disingenuous, and it deserves to be treated as such. If this was the case, we wouldn’t be hearing about this in 2021, it would have been well known for 40 years. The sad truth is, evangelicals didn’t care about abortion until they lost segregation as a political rallying point. https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734303135/throughline-traces-evangelicals-history-on-the-abortion-issue https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734303135/throughline-traces-... I repeat. The whole complaint is a lie.