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We really need an open source version of Facebook that is federated like Mastadon.

wizzwizz4 5y ago
You mean https://friendi.ca https://friendi.ca? (Older than Mastodon, better privacy controls, supports more of the Fediverse.)
- 3np 5y ago
  There is also the more IG-like Pixelfed (https://pixelfed.org/ https://pixelfed.org/) For those who don’t know, ActivityPub enables all of these (Mastodon, Pleroma, Pixelfed, Friendica, Misskey, etc) to work transparently between implementations and servers.
  - iszomer 5y ago
    And a bit of a pain to separate and isolate yourself across it. I no longer have the inclination to blast myself everywhere on the intertubes. That era of "signing up for everything" is over. Deleted my FB account last year but rarely used it to begin with. Never linked my IG account with FB either but am waiting for a reasonable excuse to delete it as well.
    - 3np 5y ago
      If you want more fine-grained control over federation than Mastodon (which already has the basic knobs), Pleroma is more flexible in that regard. It’s trivial to set up in a way that your content never leaves your server if you want, blanket or per-post. Note I’m saying that content flows across servers and implementation, not that all of these share federated auth. You can not “sign in” on any other server than the one you registered with. Some people have multiple accounts on multiple servers, some stick to one. fosstodon.org is a great one for floss and Linux talk if you don’t want to run your own. BTW, check my HN profile if anyone wants to be friends :)
      - iszomer 5y ago
        > ..not that all of these share federated auth. You can not “sign in” on any other server than the one you registered with. Oh definitely, I haven't conflated the two. The issue (at least for me) is I haven't found a way to limit mass propagation of content. Things I post in one federated instance may not jibe for others when it is a two-way street. Vice versa, maybe I don't want the exposure from more radical persuasions and/or content. Trying to reconcile the tradeoffs is also an issue in of itself as well.
        3np 5y ago
        If you're willing to run your own instance, Pleroma is the way to go. Maybe Misskey, haven't tried yet. You can specify arbitrary (including one-way) federation and content propagation policies. I'm also assuming that the support in server software for non-moderator users to have better control (assuming trust in the operator of course) will continue to improve over time.
ugjka 5y ago
Facebook without a share button! All that meme spam shared from pages is tiring, I just want personal statuses
Nextgrid 5y ago
A tech echo chamber is the last thing people want. The beauty of Facebook and other proprietary social media, for all their flaws, is that they gained acceptance among non-tech people because they focus on actual functionality & user experience as opposed to technicalities that only nerds care about. Mastodon and similar projects are and have always been dead when it comes to mainstream acceptance; I could spend 20 minutes writing a lengthy post but here's a good start: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14579504 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14579504
- edmcnulty101 5y ago
  Hey I can't argue. I use Ubuntu Desktop but it's still a long way from the OS X user UX experience both in design and being bug free. We need something open source that considers the user experience first and foremost.
  - Nextgrid 5y ago
    Unfortunately a lot of open source cares more about ideological wars (such as about systemd, or Debian not including proprietary network card firmware by default) than actually solving a real problem.
stevenicr 5y ago
buddypress is open source and free - not sure what it would take to make it 'federated' - I have not used the export data option in wordpress to know what may or may not include with buddypress - but there may already be ways to export from BP and to pull rss feeds from the various sections.

You mean https://friendi.ca https://friendi.ca? (Older than Mastodon, better privacy controls, supports more of the Fediverse.)

3np 5y ago
There is also the more IG-like Pixelfed (https://pixelfed.org/ https://pixelfed.org/) For those who don’t know, ActivityPub enables all of these (Mastodon, Pleroma, Pixelfed, Friendica, Misskey, etc) to work transparently between implementations and servers.
- iszomer 5y ago
  And a bit of a pain to separate and isolate yourself across it. I no longer have the inclination to blast myself everywhere on the intertubes. That era of "signing up for everything" is over. Deleted my FB account last year but rarely used it to begin with. Never linked my IG account with FB either but am waiting for a reasonable excuse to delete it as well.
  - 3np 5y ago
    If you want more fine-grained control over federation than Mastodon (which already has the basic knobs), Pleroma is more flexible in that regard. It’s trivial to set up in a way that your content never leaves your server if you want, blanket or per-post. Note I’m saying that content flows across servers and implementation, not that all of these share federated auth. You can not “sign in” on any other server than the one you registered with. Some people have multiple accounts on multiple servers, some stick to one. fosstodon.org is a great one for floss and Linux talk if you don’t want to run your own. BTW, check my HN profile if anyone wants to be friends :)
    - iszomer 5y ago
      > ..not that all of these share federated auth. You can not “sign in” on any other server than the one you registered with. Oh definitely, I haven't conflated the two. The issue (at least for me) is I haven't found a way to limit mass propagation of content. Things I post in one federated instance may not jibe for others when it is a two-way street. Vice versa, maybe I don't want the exposure from more radical persuasions and/or content. Trying to reconcile the tradeoffs is also an issue in of itself as well.
      - 3np 5y ago
        If you're willing to run your own instance, Pleroma is the way to go. Maybe Misskey, haven't tried yet. You can specify arbitrary (including one-way) federation and content propagation policies. I'm also assuming that the support in server software for non-moderator users to have better control (assuming trust in the operator of course) will continue to improve over time.

ugjka 5y ago

Facebook without a share button! All that meme spam shared from pages is tiring, I just want personal statuses

Nextgrid 5y ago

A tech echo chamber is the last thing people want. The beauty of Facebook and other proprietary social media, for all their flaws, is that they gained acceptance among non-tech people because they focus on actual functionality & user experience as opposed to technicalities that only nerds care about. Mastodon and similar projects are and have always been dead when it comes to mainstream acceptance; I could spend 20 minutes writing a lengthy post but here's a good start: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14579504 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14579504

edmcnulty101 5y ago
Hey I can't argue. I use Ubuntu Desktop but it's still a long way from the OS X user UX experience both in design and being bug free. We need something open source that considers the user experience first and foremost.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  Unfortunately a lot of open source cares more about ideological wars (such as about systemd, or Debian not including proprietary network card firmware by default) than actually solving a real problem.

stevenicr 5y ago

buddypress is open source and free - not sure what it would take to make it 'federated' - I have not used the export data option in wordpress to know what may or may not include with buddypress - but there may already be ways to export from BP and to pull rss feeds from the various sections.