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> If they have a right to do that, is that harassment? You can harass someone with legal activity, making it illegal. If I show up outside your house everyday

> If they have a right to do that, is that harassment? You can harass someone with legal activity, making it illegal. If I show up outside your house everyday and stand on the sidewalk with a concealed weapon that is obviously illegal harassment. Standing on the sidewalk might be legal, carrying a concealed weapon may be legal, harassing someone with either is not. > But that doesn’t mean it’s any different than if a bunch of folks from the US were at a French university during the 50’s and someone called the FBI telling them that Bob was saying a lot of scary things about communism and just got a Russian Girlfriend and maybe they should look into it. You're right. This is something we will all need to worry about in the event that we time Travel to the 50's. When that happens, I'll criticize the US government, and encourage the French university to expel the American students. I guess we will need to settle for dealing with today's problems until time travel is possible :( > If it’s true, then of course the FBI is going to look into it. If true, it’s also unlikely to count as harassment. It’s also pretty terrible from 5 different angles. Why? I think your false assumption here is that everything the university should care about, the FBI should care about to, which is simply not true. You can outright break the law and the FBI not care depending on the law. I don't know that this falls into the category of things the FBI would deal with.

lazide 5y ago
Interestingly enough, in most of your examples you are wrong - legally. And you seem to be rather completely misreading my comment. I’m not saying anything that the CCP, the students, or the university is doing is RIGHT. I’m saying it happens, and it happens a lot, and it’s happened here in the US recently, and it’s not as illegal or clearly stoppable as people here seem to think. So watch your ass, anyone that thinks that some moral right to speak truth is going to save you without some serious planning or thinking ahead (like the student who spoke out) - because you may very well be a martyr for a cause you did not plan to. Because I’m one of those who likes to speak out, and I’ve almost been steamrolled by something before. So watch your ass.
- BobbyJo 5y ago
  > Interestingly enough, in most of your examples you are wrong - legally. Care to point out which? > I’m saying it happens, and it happens a lot, and it’s happened here in the US recently, and it’s not as illegal or clearly stoppable as people here seem to think. Harassment is clearly illegal. It has a legal definition and everything. That being said, it is hard to prove, which is where the complications actually lay. In this case, it seems like there is plenty of evidence though. > So watch your ass, anyone that thinks that some moral right to speak truth is going to save you without some serious planning or thinking ahead (like the student who spoke out) - because you may very well be a martyr for a cause you did not plan to. I don't see where this fits into the conversation. Are you saying people shouldn't speak out? Are you saying reporting harassment to the police is bad? > Because I’m one of those who likes to speak out, and I’ve almost been steamrolled by something before. So watch your ass. That's pretty vague.

lazide 5y ago

Interestingly enough, in most of your examples you are wrong - legally. And you seem to be rather completely misreading my comment. I’m not saying anything that the CCP, the students, or the university is doing is RIGHT. I’m saying it happens, and it happens a lot, and it’s happened here in the US recently, and it’s not as illegal or clearly stoppable as people here seem to think. So watch your ass, anyone that thinks that some moral right to speak truth is going to save you without some serious planning or thinking ahead (like the student who spoke out) - because you may very well be a martyr for a cause you did not plan to. Because I’m one of those who likes to speak out, and I’ve almost been steamrolled by something before. So watch your ass.

BobbyJo 5y ago
> Interestingly enough, in most of your examples you are wrong - legally. Care to point out which? > I’m saying it happens, and it happens a lot, and it’s happened here in the US recently, and it’s not as illegal or clearly stoppable as people here seem to think. Harassment is clearly illegal. It has a legal definition and everything. That being said, it is hard to prove, which is where the complications actually lay. In this case, it seems like there is plenty of evidence though. > So watch your ass, anyone that thinks that some moral right to speak truth is going to save you without some serious planning or thinking ahead (like the student who spoke out) - because you may very well be a martyr for a cause you did not plan to. I don't see where this fits into the conversation. Are you saying people shouldn't speak out? Are you saying reporting harassment to the police is bad? > Because I’m one of those who likes to speak out, and I’ve almost been steamrolled by something before. So watch your ass. That's pretty vague.