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I’m kind of tired of hearing about NFTs - cool, you added a store to your game - who cares? But I’m very tired of hearing why NFTs are a scam. Cool, you don’t

I’m kind of tired of hearing about NFTs - cool, you added a store to your game - who cares? But I’m very tired of hearing why NFTs are a scam. Cool, you don’t want to buy video games skins that way - who cares?!? I’ve heard -one- good argument against NFTs and -one- good argument for, and both those posters were drown in a sea of angry replies. I guess I just don’t understand why it gets people so riled up in either direction.

kiawe_fire 5y ago
Agreed. We’ve had contests before in games where “the winner gets to be in the game!” We’ve had games with and without cosmetic upgrades, and it seems if you don’t have them now, then “there’s no incentive to keep playing” and “why can’t I make my character more unique?” But with them, then “they’re just trying to take more money from us” and “I don’t care about this cosmetic stuff so neither should anyone else”. NFTs are an additional layer on top of what has been part of gaming in some capacity for a long time. There are a couple of additional arguments to be made around the ecological impact with NFTs, but otherwise it’s the same old, tired debate that just seems to get more angry and less rational with every iteration, and I don’t get it. Mostly, I don’t see any scenario where anyone ends up actually happy with the result. Like people are complaining just to complain. When there is a rational complaint to be made, it gets downvoted to oblivion by one side or the other.
tata71 5y ago
It's been made a wedge issue on owned popular media to distract you from stacking cheap ETH, or even BTC.
nyokodo 5y ago
> I guess I just don’t understand why it gets people so riled up in either direction. NFTs are fashionable right now and some people love to attack fashions. Multiply that sentiment by the fact that many (most?) don’t understand crypto or at least the attraction to it. Raise that to the power of the tribal dynamics this issue has assumed under increasing media and political scrutiny. An issue ripe for the obsessions of our time.
- nr2x 5y ago
  Some people are spending huge amounts of money to claim they hold a wholly theoretical form of "ownership" over art that at best could be a sticker on a kids laptop. Other people think that's insane. They aren't equally right.
  - nyokodo 5y ago
    > that at best could be a sticker Case in point. Some people collect stickers. I don’t but I’m not going to take every opportunity to obnoxiously point that out every time sticker collection comes up.
    - nr2x 5y ago
      Show me who is spending $1M on a sticker thinking they'll double the money?
      - nyokodo 5y ago
        Plenty of other things have been the subjects of irrational exuberance that are fundamentally fine. No one is arguing tulips or houses are ipso facto nonsense. $1M for an NFT is more of a symptom of insane/desperate global monetary policy but NFTs per se are fine.
      - perrylaj 5y ago
        Do stamp collectors qualify?
        nr2x 5y ago
        If they think stamp collecting is a way to get rich quick, sure. But I think passion for the topic is the driver. That and actual scarcity behind the asset, as opposed to Ponzi scheme.
  - erulabs 5y ago
    I think they are equally right, honestly. But between you and those people, you’re not equally condescending.
boublepop 5y ago
> Cool, you don’t want to buy video games skins that way - who cares?!? This isn’t about micro transactions, you don’t need or even use NFTs for that. Replace NFT with gambling and it should make sense. Many people don’t like it when video games try to build gambling merchanisms into them. And saying “its not gambling its NFTs” is like trying to get around a ban with a defense of “No it wasn’t a death threat, it was a haiku”. Now obviously gambling exists both in games and real life, and you’ll find people who support it on both sides of the fence, but for many who it still feels like abuse of the weak of mind, and should be heavily regulated and penalized on the business side.

kiawe_fire 5y ago

Agreed. We’ve had contests before in games where “the winner gets to be in the game!” We’ve had games with and without cosmetic upgrades, and it seems if you don’t have them now, then “there’s no incentive to keep playing” and “why can’t I make my character more unique?” But with them, then “they’re just trying to take more money from us” and “I don’t care about this cosmetic stuff so neither should anyone else”. NFTs are an additional layer on top of what has been part of gaming in some capacity for a long time. There are a couple of additional arguments to be made around the ecological impact with NFTs, but otherwise it’s the same old, tired debate that just seems to get more angry and less rational with every iteration, and I don’t get it. Mostly, I don’t see any scenario where anyone ends up actually happy with the result. Like people are complaining just to complain. When there is a rational complaint to be made, it gets downvoted to oblivion by one side or the other.

tata71 5y ago

It's been made a wedge issue on owned popular media to distract you from stacking cheap ETH, or even BTC.

nyokodo 5y ago

> I guess I just don’t understand why it gets people so riled up in either direction. NFTs are fashionable right now and some people love to attack fashions. Multiply that sentiment by the fact that many (most?) don’t understand crypto or at least the attraction to it. Raise that to the power of the tribal dynamics this issue has assumed under increasing media and political scrutiny. An issue ripe for the obsessions of our time.

nr2x 5y ago
Some people are spending huge amounts of money to claim they hold a wholly theoretical form of "ownership" over art that at best could be a sticker on a kids laptop. Other people think that's insane. They aren't equally right.
- nyokodo 5y ago
  > that at best could be a sticker Case in point. Some people collect stickers. I don’t but I’m not going to take every opportunity to obnoxiously point that out every time sticker collection comes up.
  - nr2x 5y ago
    Show me who is spending $1M on a sticker thinking they'll double the money?
    - nyokodo 5y ago
      Plenty of other things have been the subjects of irrational exuberance that are fundamentally fine. No one is arguing tulips or houses are ipso facto nonsense. $1M for an NFT is more of a symptom of insane/desperate global monetary policy but NFTs per se are fine.
    - perrylaj 5y ago
      Do stamp collectors qualify?
      - nr2x 5y ago
        If they think stamp collecting is a way to get rich quick, sure. But I think passion for the topic is the driver. That and actual scarcity behind the asset, as opposed to Ponzi scheme.
- erulabs 5y ago
  I think they are equally right, honestly. But between you and those people, you’re not equally condescending.

boublepop 5y ago

> Cool, you don’t want to buy video games skins that way - who cares?!? This isn’t about micro transactions, you don’t need or even use NFTs for that. Replace NFT with gambling and it should make sense. Many people don’t like it when video games try to build gambling merchanisms into them. And saying “its not gambling its NFTs” is like trying to get around a ban with a defense of “No it wasn’t a death threat, it was a haiku”. Now obviously gambling exists both in games and real life, and you’ll find people who support it on both sides of the fence, but for many who it still feels like abuse of the weak of mind, and should be heavily regulated and penalized on the business side.