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You're totally on point with what I'm saying. It's about the fact that when you get older the crowd you run in is worrying about mortgage payments, spouses and

You're totally on point with what I'm saying. It's about the fact that when you get older the crowd you run in is worrying about mortgage payments, spouses and kids. You don't have the time or curiosity to engage new stuff and share it with your friends like you used to. And yes, there is probably SOME GUY out there that does. It's a trend, not an absolute rule.

Tichy 19y ago
Friends of my age are all having children right now. That way I learned about the existence of pages like http://lilypie.com/ http://lilypie.com/ which seems to cater for parents. What if something like that is the next killer-app? Older people would be more likely to create an application like that, I would think. Why should the "teen apps" be the only ones that are interesting?
- wschroter 19y ago
  It's not that the "teen" apps are the ones that matter. Don't take Facebook / Myspace so literally. It's pointing to the fact that major opportunities are being created that are obvious to one generation and almost oblivous from another.
  - geebee 19y ago
    Another factor can be that the previous generation doesn't see what's such a big deal about a groundbreaking technology. A lot of the folks 10 years older than me had trouble seeing what was so revolutionary about HTML and a browser (you're requesting a file and displaying it through a markup language? OK... and how is this different?) Personally, it took me a long time to grasp why blogging offered so much more than just maintaining a personal website (that said, RSS did seem very cool from the get-go). Facebook was hard to distinguish from earlier (may I call them 1.0?) applications that were "basically a bunch of web pages linked together" (a bunch of these went down with the first dot-com bubble). So another risk is too much awareness - rather than being technically clueless, the older crowd goes too far in the other direction. A handful of genes separates a human fom a sea cumcumber (ok, maybe a little more than a handful)... uhh, how is this different from using DNA to make more DNA? ;)
    - wschroter 19y ago
      @ Tichy - I really like your point about a younger generation missing out on an older trend. Perhaps we're just used to seeing more opportunities creep up from the younger generation than vice versa. Point well made.
  - Tichy 19y ago
    Sure, and I have asked myself that question before: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22696 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22696 But in theory it works both ways - older generations might see business opportunities the younger ones are missing. I know I wish I had thought more about certain things when I was younger... And since society seems to be aging, the advantage might actually be on the side of the older generation.
koolmoe 19y ago
None of these "assets" that are supposedly lost after 30 are a function of age. Yes, there is likely a correlation. However, even if there is a trend to be observed, the information is only useful to someone trying to select from a group of candidates, and then only if the selector is unable to distinguish between candidates on the basis of the desired characteristics. The trend is of no use to the candidates. Thinking that you have an advantage simply because you are young is foolhardy. Lamenting that you are at a disadvantage because you are over 30 most likely reveals your lack of fortitude. You either are (and intelligent curious dedicated &rest important-attributes) or you are not.
gyro_robo 19y ago
One might as well equivalently say that younger people are missing out on life (relationships, kids, etc.) by being preoccupied with their online networks. I think both observations are missing the point that younger and older people have different experiences, and neither is inherently better. There's nothing stopping adults from getting into the younger scene en masse except a lack of interest. They just have different things they like to do which are no more or less valid.

Tichy 19y ago

Friends of my age are all having children right now. That way I learned about the existence of pages like http://lilypie.com/ http://lilypie.com/ which seems to cater for parents. What if something like that is the next killer-app? Older people would be more likely to create an application like that, I would think. Why should the "teen apps" be the only ones that are interesting?

wschroter 19y ago
It's not that the "teen" apps are the ones that matter. Don't take Facebook / Myspace so literally. It's pointing to the fact that major opportunities are being created that are obvious to one generation and almost oblivous from another.
- geebee 19y ago
  Another factor can be that the previous generation doesn't see what's such a big deal about a groundbreaking technology. A lot of the folks 10 years older than me had trouble seeing what was so revolutionary about HTML and a browser (you're requesting a file and displaying it through a markup language? OK... and how is this different?) Personally, it took me a long time to grasp why blogging offered so much more than just maintaining a personal website (that said, RSS did seem very cool from the get-go). Facebook was hard to distinguish from earlier (may I call them 1.0?) applications that were "basically a bunch of web pages linked together" (a bunch of these went down with the first dot-com bubble). So another risk is too much awareness - rather than being technically clueless, the older crowd goes too far in the other direction. A handful of genes separates a human fom a sea cumcumber (ok, maybe a little more than a handful)... uhh, how is this different from using DNA to make more DNA? ;)
  - wschroter 19y ago
    @ Tichy - I really like your point about a younger generation missing out on an older trend. Perhaps we're just used to seeing more opportunities creep up from the younger generation than vice versa. Point well made.
- Tichy 19y ago
  Sure, and I have asked myself that question before: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22696 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22696 But in theory it works both ways - older generations might see business opportunities the younger ones are missing. I know I wish I had thought more about certain things when I was younger... And since society seems to be aging, the advantage might actually be on the side of the older generation.

koolmoe 19y ago

None of these "assets" that are supposedly lost after 30 are a function of age. Yes, there is likely a correlation. However, even if there is a trend to be observed, the information is only useful to someone trying to select from a group of candidates, and then only if the selector is unable to distinguish between candidates on the basis of the desired characteristics. The trend is of no use to the candidates. Thinking that you have an advantage simply because you are young is foolhardy. Lamenting that you are at a disadvantage because you are over 30 most likely reveals your lack of fortitude. You either are (and intelligent curious dedicated &rest important-attributes) or you are not.

gyro_robo 19y ago

One might as well equivalently say that younger people are missing out on life (relationships, kids, etc.) by being preoccupied with their online networks. I think both observations are missing the point that younger and older people have different experiences, and neither is inherently better. There's nothing stopping adults from getting into the younger scene en masse except a lack of interest. They just have different things they like to do which are no more or less valid.