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Tesla requires active monitoring by a human operator despite the misleading name that FSD implies, and despite their boasts. Don’t forget to read the Terms of

Tesla requires active monitoring by a human operator despite the misleading name that FSD implies, and despite their boasts. Don’t forget to read the Terms of Service!

phh 5y ago
And don't forget to read the comment you're replying to!
nemothekid 5y ago
From the linked regulatory text: >(a) “Autonomous mode” is the status of vehicle operation where technology that is a combination of hardware and software, remote and/or on-board, performs the dynamic driving task, with or without a natural person actively supervising the autonomous technology's performance of the dynamic driving task. An autonomous vehicle is operating or driving in autonomous mode when it is operated or driven with the autonomous technology engaged The "active monitoring" part doesn't seem to exempt them from this law. What I'm not sure is - wouldn't this also apply to high cruise control / following?
- sroussey 5y ago
  Yeah, I don’t think they mean to ban cruise control, so it is confusing.
- nickff 5y ago
  This law seems to be vague in critical ways: >"performs the dynamic driving task, with or without a natural person actively supervising the autonomous technology's performance of the dynamic driving task" The terms 'dynamic driving task' and 'supervivising' are critical here, and don't seem to be clearly defined. Supervising could mean an absence of active physical control, maybe meaning a 'supervisor' without a hand on the steering wheel, but with access to a kill-switch. 'Dynamic driving task' also seems a bit vague; does this mean turning, changing speeds, or something else? This could be interpreted for or against Tesla; maybe that's what they wanted.
  - jcranmer 5y ago
    It specifically defines 'dynamic driving task' in the definitions section: > (g) “Dynamic driving task” means all of the real-time functions required to operate a vehicle in on-road traffic, excluding selection of final and intermediate destinations, and including without limitation: object and event detection, recognition, and classification; object and event response; maneuver planning; steering, turning, lane keeping, and lane changing, including providing the appropriate signal for the lane change or turn maneuver; and acceleration and deceleration.

Tesla requires active monitoring by a human operator despite the misleading name that FSD implies, and despite their boasts. Don’t forget to read the Terms of Service!

phh 5y ago

And don't forget to read the comment you're replying to!

nemothekid 5y ago

From the linked regulatory text: >(a) “Autonomous mode” is the status of vehicle operation where technology that is a combination of hardware and software, remote and/or on-board, performs the dynamic driving task, with or without a natural person actively supervising the autonomous technology's performance of the dynamic driving task. An autonomous vehicle is operating or driving in autonomous mode when it is operated or driven with the autonomous technology engaged The "active monitoring" part doesn't seem to exempt them from this law. What I'm not sure is - wouldn't this also apply to high cruise control / following?

sroussey 5y ago
Yeah, I don’t think they mean to ban cruise control, so it is confusing.
nickff 5y ago
This law seems to be vague in critical ways: >"performs the dynamic driving task, with or without a natural person actively supervising the autonomous technology's performance of the dynamic driving task" The terms 'dynamic driving task' and 'supervivising' are critical here, and don't seem to be clearly defined. Supervising could mean an absence of active physical control, maybe meaning a 'supervisor' without a hand on the steering wheel, but with access to a kill-switch. 'Dynamic driving task' also seems a bit vague; does this mean turning, changing speeds, or something else? This could be interpreted for or against Tesla; maybe that's what they wanted.
- jcranmer 5y ago
  It specifically defines 'dynamic driving task' in the definitions section: > (g) “Dynamic driving task” means all of the real-time functions required to operate a vehicle in on-road traffic, excluding selection of final and intermediate destinations, and including without limitation: object and event detection, recognition, and classification; object and event response; maneuver planning; steering, turning, lane keeping, and lane changing, including providing the appropriate signal for the lane change or turn maneuver; and acceleration and deceleration.