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An owncloud droplet or owncloud on a VPS. Or an owncloud paid instance. All depends on your budget and your needs and your time. I totally switched off Dropbox

An owncloud droplet or owncloud on a VPS. Or an owncloud paid instance. All depends on your budget and your needs and your time. I totally switched off Dropbox when they limited the number of devices. Self host owncloud on a VPS, am very happy. From time to time I have to occ:upgrade something et voilà. Used for syncing, not backing up. It helps that I can install and maintain it though, wouldn't recommend it to anyone without a bit of wed/IT experience or the time to lean some basics.

no_time 5y ago
Just installed nextcloud, an owncloud fork today. Be warned, while server side encryption works, e2e is completely broken and has been for non brand new accounts for quite a while judging by the github issues. I'm not sure how much should I trust a vps host. I can mess around with encryption all day long but they can compromise my mail server without me ever knowing.
- johnchristopher 5y ago
  > I'm not sure how much should I trust a vps host. I can mess around with encryption all day long but they can compromise my mail server without me ever knowing. Basically, you can't. It all depends on your threat model. edit: https://owncloud.com/features/end-to-end-encryption-2/ https://owncloud.com/features/end-to-end-encryption-2/ owncloud community and standard edition don't have e2e
  - no_time 5y ago
    Weird to think about it because some people trust VPSes with their entire business and not just their email and phone backup like I would. The enterprise edition is out of my budget range unfortunately.
    - johnchristopher 5y ago
      Maybe have a look at cryfs and encfs ? One of them is `optimized` for always on syncing and small chunks (can't remember which) and the other is deprecated (or a third one, can't remember at the moment). But yeah, if you have a business... don't self host too much sensitive stuff, delegate if you can.

no_time 5y ago

Just installed nextcloud, an owncloud fork today. Be warned, while server side encryption works, e2e is completely broken and has been for non brand new accounts for quite a while judging by the github issues. I'm not sure how much should I trust a vps host. I can mess around with encryption all day long but they can compromise my mail server without me ever knowing.

johnchristopher 5y ago
> I'm not sure how much should I trust a vps host. I can mess around with encryption all day long but they can compromise my mail server without me ever knowing. Basically, you can't. It all depends on your threat model. edit: https://owncloud.com/features/end-to-end-encryption-2/ https://owncloud.com/features/end-to-end-encryption-2/ owncloud community and standard edition don't have e2e
- no_time 5y ago
  Weird to think about it because some people trust VPSes with their entire business and not just their email and phone backup like I would. The enterprise edition is out of my budget range unfortunately.
  - johnchristopher 5y ago
    Maybe have a look at cryfs and encfs ? One of them is `optimized` for always on syncing and small chunks (can't remember which) and the other is deprecated (or a third one, can't remember at the moment). But yeah, if you have a business... don't self host too much sensitive stuff, delegate if you can.