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What exactly are the characteristics of the 'far right' in Germany? The reason I ask is that I have had European friends tell me that Bernie Sanders would be c

What exactly are the characteristics of the 'far right' in Germany? The reason I ask is that I have had European friends tell me that Bernie Sanders would be considered as a right-leaning centrist in their country. So clearly the frames of reference are different...

ahartmetz 5y ago
They hate foreigners and some of them (especially in the east) like to beat them up. They are by no means something like anarcho-capitalists that are called far right because the mainstream is leftist.
monopoledance 5y ago
No, we got the very deep end too. Straight anti-semitism, holocaust denial, NWO conspiracy theorists, neonazi hooligans, violence, militias, murder, right-wing terrorism (far bigger than left-wing activities, including the RAF). Saxony has places considered "no-go" areas for PoC. It's just your left isn't very leftist. Baseline solidarity and collectivism is different here (foundation for universal health dates back to 1845), and we didn't have the "red scare" oppression and persecution time you got - our "leftist" and leftist structures are older and established, not a moral panic. Btw. you also see that in our hacking scene, which is predominantly leftist/anarchist leaning (tough for state recruiting, as capable folks are generally not patriotic enough for that shitty pay). The biggest hacking conference in Europe, the CCC congress, is a little leftist, self-organized utopia, and very different from events like defcon. Some nazi web structures preemptively go offline around that time, as congress always gets a very good, unregulated uplink deal and spontaneous synchronization of efforts and enemies in extensive bring-your-own-servers networks. The event is strictly non-commercial - no sponsors, no ads, no company booths - and completely run by volunteers, for several decades now :) https://media.ccc.de/v/all_creatures_welcome https://media.ccc.de/v/all_creatures_welcome

ahartmetz 5y ago

They hate foreigners and some of them (especially in the east) like to beat them up. They are by no means something like anarcho-capitalists that are called far right because the mainstream is leftist.

monopoledance 5y ago

No, we got the very deep end too. Straight anti-semitism, holocaust denial, NWO conspiracy theorists, neonazi hooligans, violence, militias, murder, right-wing terrorism (far bigger than left-wing activities, including the RAF). Saxony has places considered "no-go" areas for PoC. It's just your left isn't very leftist. Baseline solidarity and collectivism is different here (foundation for universal health dates back to 1845), and we didn't have the "red scare" oppression and persecution time you got - our "leftist" and leftist structures are older and established, not a moral panic. Btw. you also see that in our hacking scene, which is predominantly leftist/anarchist leaning (tough for state recruiting, as capable folks are generally not patriotic enough for that shitty pay). The biggest hacking conference in Europe, the CCC congress, is a little leftist, self-organized utopia, and very different from events like defcon. Some nazi web structures preemptively go offline around that time, as congress always gets a very good, unregulated uplink deal and spontaneous synchronization of efforts and enemies in extensive bring-your-own-servers networks. The event is strictly non-commercial - no sponsors, no ads, no company booths - and completely run by volunteers, for several decades now :) https://media.ccc.de/v/all_creatures_welcome https://media.ccc.de/v/all_creatures_welcome