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I'd like to see HN shy away from posting twitter threads as news. There's almost always a hard link to the source material, and twitter threads are filled with

I'd like to see HN shy away from posting twitter threads as news. There's almost always a hard link to the source material, and twitter threads are filled with emotional, truncated, nuance-lacking, trite clips that more often than not do little to promote healthy discussion of a topic. The goal of quality here really is noble.

platz 5y ago
sometimes thats where the news is
- Kinrany 5y ago
  Including this case. The "original" original is a Discord message.
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Oddskar 5y ago
Why would a newspaper article that regurgitates the Twitter thread be any better? If the source is Twitter then I much prefer a link to Twitter.
- jazzyjackson 5y ago
  But the news isn’t that somebody on Twitter found this license issue, the news is that there’s a license issue. A tweet could be a good tip for a journalist to do journalistic things like finding out if its true and writing up some context of how this has happened before and what GPL is, that way the story can be understood by a wider audience. Twitter is popular for people obsessed with hearing the latest rumor, but if TikTok is an illegal fork of OBS, I’d rather hear a few days later the well researched details - or if its a nothingburger overreaction, then I’d rather not hear about it at all.
galgalesh 5y ago
From the HN guidelines: > Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—things like article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.
- selfhoster11 5y ago
  That doesn't solve the problem that Twitter is, in fact, a popular link destination and a giant pain to load on slow devices.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    https://nitter.net/Naaackers/status/1471494415306788870 https://nitter.net/Naaackers/status/1471494415306788870
- jazzyjackson 5y ago
  I think the complaint is more about twitter being an unreliable trash news source akin to the daily mirror, rather than pedestrian complaints of how the format is annoying
  - ollien 5y ago
    What makes Twitter any different in reliability than someone's blog? HN is filled with random blog links
    - BuildTheRobots 5y ago
      The obvious difference is that it's impossible to explain any complex or in depth information using 280 characters or less. Trying to follow a thread of tweets (without using a 3rd party site) is painful. Heck, this throwaway response barely fits.
      - ipaddr 5y ago
        Many times there are a series of tweets. It's as easy to view it is as easy as scrolling down no third party tools required
aembleton 5y ago
I'd like to see Twitter threads go to Threadreader as its easier to read. For example, this thread would be https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1471494415306788870.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1471494415306788870.html
minimaxir 5y ago
Hacker News has a "post the original source" rule. In this case, Twitter is the original source. One of my most recent grievances is with HN is the ranking penalty of Twitter submissions as that has been the primary source of news lately, for better or for worse.
- sp332 5y ago
  Twitter is not the original source. The first image in the tweet is of an earlier post.
  - tekacs 5y ago
    The image you’re talking about in the tweet is of a Discord message — this tweet is presumably the most original source that’s linkable as a normal page on the web.
    - sp332 5y ago
      Thanks, I was trying to figure out what platform that was from.
estaseuropano 5y ago
The same critique applies however also to Reddit and any other site with social comments.
jjulius 5y ago
>There's almost always a hard link to the source material... Do you have a hard link to the source material in this instance? As far as I can tell[1], there isn't an article about this yet; the only results at the time of this comment are about how TikTok will be allowing "OBS-like streaming" soon. In lieu of an actual article or blog post about this, what would you suggest people link to if not a Twitter thread? Should an issue not be discussed whatsoever if it's only on Twitter? [1]https://www.google.com/search?q=tiktok+obs&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiunM71zev0AhWKEzQIHcF4C3sQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1920&bih=969&dpr=1 https://www.google.com/search?q=tiktok+obs&source=lnms&tbm=n...
dang 5y ago
> There's almost always a hard link to the source material I don't think that's true. Twitter threads, like it or not, are the medium for a great deal of original insight, public conversation, and ongoing developments.

platz 5y ago

sometimes thats where the news is

Kinrany 5y ago
Including this case. The "original" original is a Discord message.

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Oddskar 5y ago

Why would a newspaper article that regurgitates the Twitter thread be any better? If the source is Twitter then I much prefer a link to Twitter.

jazzyjackson 5y ago
But the news isn’t that somebody on Twitter found this license issue, the news is that there’s a license issue. A tweet could be a good tip for a journalist to do journalistic things like finding out if its true and writing up some context of how this has happened before and what GPL is, that way the story can be understood by a wider audience. Twitter is popular for people obsessed with hearing the latest rumor, but if TikTok is an illegal fork of OBS, I’d rather hear a few days later the well researched details - or if its a nothingburger overreaction, then I’d rather not hear about it at all.

galgalesh 5y ago

From the HN guidelines: > Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—things like article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.

selfhoster11 5y ago
That doesn't solve the problem that Twitter is, in fact, a popular link destination and a giant pain to load on slow devices.
- fsflover 5y ago
  https://nitter.net/Naaackers/status/1471494415306788870 https://nitter.net/Naaackers/status/1471494415306788870
jazzyjackson 5y ago
I think the complaint is more about twitter being an unreliable trash news source akin to the daily mirror, rather than pedestrian complaints of how the format is annoying
- ollien 5y ago
  What makes Twitter any different in reliability than someone's blog? HN is filled with random blog links
  - BuildTheRobots 5y ago
    The obvious difference is that it's impossible to explain any complex or in depth information using 280 characters or less. Trying to follow a thread of tweets (without using a 3rd party site) is painful. Heck, this throwaway response barely fits.
    - ipaddr 5y ago
      Many times there are a series of tweets. It's as easy to view it is as easy as scrolling down no third party tools required

aembleton 5y ago

I'd like to see Twitter threads go to Threadreader as its easier to read. For example, this thread would be https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1471494415306788870.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1471494415306788870.html

minimaxir 5y ago

Hacker News has a "post the original source" rule. In this case, Twitter is the original source. One of my most recent grievances is with HN is the ranking penalty of Twitter submissions as that has been the primary source of news lately, for better or for worse.

sp332 5y ago
Twitter is not the original source. The first image in the tweet is of an earlier post.
- tekacs 5y ago
  The image you’re talking about in the tweet is of a Discord message — this tweet is presumably the most original source that’s linkable as a normal page on the web.
  - sp332 5y ago
    Thanks, I was trying to figure out what platform that was from.

estaseuropano 5y ago

The same critique applies however also to Reddit and any other site with social comments.

jjulius 5y ago

>There's almost always a hard link to the source material... Do you have a hard link to the source material in this instance? As far as I can tell[1], there isn't an article about this yet; the only results at the time of this comment are about how TikTok will be allowing "OBS-like streaming" soon. In lieu of an actual article or blog post about this, what would you suggest people link to if not a Twitter thread? Should an issue not be discussed whatsoever if it's only on Twitter? [1]https://www.google.com/search?q=tiktok+obs&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiunM71zev0AhWKEzQIHcF4C3sQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1920&bih=969&dpr=1 https://www.google.com/search?q=tiktok+obs&source=lnms&tbm=n...

dang 5y ago

> There's almost always a hard link to the source material I don't think that's true. Twitter threads, like it or not, are the medium for a great deal of original insight, public conversation, and ongoing developments.