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You only have to look at this very website to see the same happening with US citizens' support for their government's chosen narrative. It bodes poorly for Puer

You only have to look at this very website to see the same happening with US citizens' support for their government's chosen narrative. It bodes poorly for Puerto Rico, Cuba, Nicaragua and every other nation who had military juntas propped up by the USG and still suffer from american influence. Some will go to great lengths to foment hatred against whistleblowers, such as Assange or Snowden.

BLKNSLVR 5y ago
Oh yes, I totally agree, but I just think this is on a different scale, and I might be way wrong on this, but... Imagine a US college student studying overseas commenting about the US failures in the Vietnam War or the Iraq War over nonexistent WMDs. Would other US students harass that individual, and if so, would they report the individual to US "authorities" to make sure a message was passed on to the individuals parents? I get riled up about bad opinions, but I'm not going out of my way to make their lives miserable or report them to authorities. Fuck man, I've got shit to do of my own.
- Koshkin 5y ago
  > I'm not going out of my way to make their lives miserable But things like that often happen in the US, like, for example, in the case of people who spoke against the invasion of Iraq. This can even escalate further, I will never forget the “freedom fries” or “Today Baghdad, tomorrow Paris!”
  - BLKNSLVR 5y ago
    These are other students though, if that makes a difference. Kids, in a foreign country, who should be either studying, drinking, or fucking. Doing shit because their parents are a thousand miles away. Anything but home country goddamn politics. Again, maybe I'm wrong, but usually that level of zealotry requires a few years of career and relationship failure that's out of reach to the average student.
someguydave 5y ago
The US governemnt is inept and oppressive in its ways, but you are acting exactly as a hostile foreign agent would, stirring up strife and making exaggerated equivocations to create division.
- stelonix 5y ago
  From my point of view, being a foreigner to US citizens, it's the USG stirring strife, exaggerated equivocations like the Uygur genocide fiasco... All in an attempt to create division and weaken their adversaries. It goes both ways, the US doesn't get to be morally in a higher ground when you do the same things (or worse) as the people you're accusing. If you cut down on the jingoism, it's 2 global superpowers in a geopolitical battle, and that's the only objective view.
  - someguydave 5y ago
    Yes, the US has made many poor strategic decisions over the past few decades, but that is not the same as committing genocide. China is not a global power, it is a regional power.

BLKNSLVR 5y ago

Oh yes, I totally agree, but I just think this is on a different scale, and I might be way wrong on this, but... Imagine a US college student studying overseas commenting about the US failures in the Vietnam War or the Iraq War over nonexistent WMDs. Would other US students harass that individual, and if so, would they report the individual to US "authorities" to make sure a message was passed on to the individuals parents? I get riled up about bad opinions, but I'm not going out of my way to make their lives miserable or report them to authorities. Fuck man, I've got shit to do of my own.

Koshkin 5y ago
> I'm not going out of my way to make their lives miserable But things like that often happen in the US, like, for example, in the case of people who spoke against the invasion of Iraq. This can even escalate further, I will never forget the “freedom fries” or “Today Baghdad, tomorrow Paris!”
- BLKNSLVR 5y ago
  These are other students though, if that makes a difference. Kids, in a foreign country, who should be either studying, drinking, or fucking. Doing shit because their parents are a thousand miles away. Anything but home country goddamn politics. Again, maybe I'm wrong, but usually that level of zealotry requires a few years of career and relationship failure that's out of reach to the average student.

someguydave 5y ago

The US governemnt is inept and oppressive in its ways, but you are acting exactly as a hostile foreign agent would, stirring up strife and making exaggerated equivocations to create division.

stelonix 5y ago
From my point of view, being a foreigner to US citizens, it's the USG stirring strife, exaggerated equivocations like the Uygur genocide fiasco... All in an attempt to create division and weaken their adversaries. It goes both ways, the US doesn't get to be morally in a higher ground when you do the same things (or worse) as the people you're accusing. If you cut down on the jingoism, it's 2 global superpowers in a geopolitical battle, and that's the only objective view.
- someguydave 5y ago
  Yes, the US has made many poor strategic decisions over the past few decades, but that is not the same as committing genocide. China is not a global power, it is a regional power.