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No, it was mild in South Africa amongst the vaccinated.

by orra 5y ago

walterbell 5y ago
Dec 9, https://theprint.in/health/omicron-symptoms-mild-with-or-without-vaccination-says-south-africa-doctor-who-flagged-variant/778804/ https://theprint.in/health/omicron-symptoms-mild-with-or-wit... > Covid patients infected by the Omicron variant, whether vaccinated or not, usually experience mild symptoms, though in the unvaccinated, they are more intense and last longer, said Dr Angelique Coetzee, who is among the physicians who first flagged the highly mutated strain in South Africa. Dec 16, https://torontosun.com/news/world/small-south-africa-patient-study-shows-omicron-breaking-through-booster-shots https://torontosun.com/news/world/small-south-africa-patient... > A small study of seven COVID-19 cases in South Africa shows the Omicron variant can break through booster vaccine shots, one of the scientists involved said on Thursday.
- orra 5y ago
  Nice selective reading. > usually experience mild symptoms, though in the unvaccinated, they are more intense and last longer "Usually" is key, as is "in the unvaccinated, they are more intense and last longer". Fact is, 2 vaccinate doses decreases hospitalisation by Omicron by 70%. As for break through infections? Doesn't change the fact vaccination decreases the severity in people who end up infected.
  - walterbell 5y ago
    > 2 vaccinate doses decreases hospitalisation by Omicron by 70%. Would you happen to have a reference for that South African stat? One article mentioned that out of 43 cases documented by the CDC in the USA, only one person was hospitalized.
    - orra 5y ago
      43 cases isn't statistically significant. It's unlikely to be representative either. The 70% figure is readily available. It's in this article somebody else quoted when failing to make an opposing point: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/14/south-africa-omicron-coronavirus/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/14/south-africa...
      - walterbell 5y ago
        Thanks, the text below is consistent with BMJ article: > He said private hospitals reported that most patients were unvaccinated and many were initially admitted for non-covid-related illnesses. There was less evidence of respiratory infections in omicron-infected patients, compared with the other variants, with fewer patients requiring oxygen, Noach added. and hospitalization is down across the board, even before the additional benefit of vaccination: > Adults are experiencing a 29% lower admission risk relative to South Africa’s first wave of infection, dominated by D614G, in early 2020. Furthermore, hospitalised adults currently have a lower propensity to be admitted to high-care and intensive-care units, relative to prior waves.”

No, it was mild in South Africa amongst the vaccinated.

by orra 5y ago

No, it was mild in South Africa amongst the vaccinated.

Dec 9, https://theprint.in/health/omicron-symptoms-mild-with-or-without-vaccination-says-south-africa-doctor-who-flagged-variant/778804/ https://theprint.in/health/omicron-symptoms-mild-with-or-wit... > Covid patients infected by the Omicron variant, whether vaccinated or not, usually experience mild symptoms, though in the unvaccinated, they are more intense and last longer, said Dr Angelique Coetzee, who is among the physicians who first flagged the highly mutated strain in South Africa. Dec 16, https://torontosun.com/news/world/small-south-africa-patient-study-shows-omicron-breaking-through-booster-shots https://torontosun.com/news/world/small-south-africa-patient... > A small study of seven COVID-19 cases in South Africa shows the Omicron variant can break through booster vaccine shots, one of the scientists involved said on Thursday.

orra 5y ago
Nice selective reading. > usually experience mild symptoms, though in the unvaccinated, they are more intense and last longer "Usually" is key, as is "in the unvaccinated, they are more intense and last longer". Fact is, 2 vaccinate doses decreases hospitalisation by Omicron by 70%. As for break through infections? Doesn't change the fact vaccination decreases the severity in people who end up infected.
- walterbell 5y ago
  > 2 vaccinate doses decreases hospitalisation by Omicron by 70%. Would you happen to have a reference for that South African stat? One article mentioned that out of 43 cases documented by the CDC in the USA, only one person was hospitalized.
  - orra 5y ago
    43 cases isn't statistically significant. It's unlikely to be representative either. The 70% figure is readily available. It's in this article somebody else quoted when failing to make an opposing point: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/14/south-africa-omicron-coronavirus/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/14/south-africa...
    - walterbell 5y ago
      Thanks, the text below is consistent with BMJ article: > He said private hospitals reported that most patients were unvaccinated and many were initially admitted for non-covid-related illnesses. There was less evidence of respiratory infections in omicron-infected patients, compared with the other variants, with fewer patients requiring oxygen, Noach added. and hospitalization is down across the board, even before the additional benefit of vaccination: > Adults are experiencing a 29% lower admission risk relative to South Africa’s first wave of infection, dominated by D614G, in early 2020. Furthermore, hospitalised adults currently have a lower propensity to be admitted to high-care and intensive-care units, relative to prior waves.”