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Yeah it's brought the moral busybodies out of the woodwork like nothing else, I'd bet a fair amount that the people snitching on their neighbours for breaking l

Yeah it's brought the moral busybodies out of the woodwork like nothing else, I'd bet a fair amount that the people snitching on their neighbours for breaking lockdown rules or harassing strangers in public about masks would be exactly the same people siding with things like witchcraft trials or McCarthyism in ages past. Some people identify very strongly with the established norms of the day and will be aggressively conformist towards them because that's who they are, regardless of how much merit those norms actually have. One social impact of the pandemic is that nobody can mind their own damn business any more, and the reason is because we decided basically overnight in March 2020 that catching an airborne virus now has a moral dimension it never had before. You catch a cold, you catch the flu, you catch norovirus, it's just something shitty that happens to you by chance rather than being anyone's fault. When it comes to other diseases people do attach moral judgements; someone gives you HIV or clamydia or syphilis so it automatically has to be someone else's fault that you got sick. Because of the way society has come to see COVID, that disease has been put in the latter category rather than the former which is incorrect in my opinion. Society will never heal from the wounds of this pandemic until COVID is just something shitty you happen to catch rather than something someone gave to you because of a moral failure.

bananapear 5y ago
Relevant Brass Eye clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3xUjw2BCYE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3xUjw2BCYE
youerbt 5y ago
> it's just something shitty that happens to you So you ask for people to accept some hardships in life, but somehow make a big deal with putting mask on your face from time to time?
- BoxOfRain 5y ago
  Where did I say that? It's literally this ridiculous jumping down people's throat the second they mention anything slightly negative about 'COVID culture' that I'm criticising.
EForEndeavour 5y ago
> regardless of how much merit those norms actually have Isn't that the whole point? Persecuting a neighbour as a witch has no merit. Limiting contact with your neighbour as a pandemic restriction does. > One social impact of the pandemic is that nobody can mind their own damn business any more If "mind their own damn business" means "go about daily life as if there weren't a global pandemic" then yes, this is indeed an expected impact of public health crises.
johnchristopher 5y ago
Okay boomer, we heard you, now please put your mask on when riding public transport, thank you :-).
crtasm 5y ago
You can't catch something without someone else spreading it. Please wear a mask to lower the chance of covid infections and help out the society you live in.
- BoxOfRain 5y ago
  I literally only brought up masks in the context of people harassing strangers in public about them, from the responses I'm getting here you'd think I'd posted some sort of anti-mask polemic. It's not masks I was criticising, I'm criticising the kind of profoundly obnoxious person who goes up to strangers in public to shriek at them about masks and then acts like a victim when they (quite reasonably) are told to mind their own business. It's never acceptable to harrass people in public like that regardless of how scared you are of COVID in my opinion. Do people really struggle to understand why acting like that particularly unpleasant brand of judgemental Puritan evangelist might put people off from their message? It's like any discussion around COVID has to come packaged with buckets of tedious moralising or it automatically gets dismissed as conspiratorial.
  - crtasm 5y ago
    > might put people off from their message? your posts here that begin with a comparison to supporting witch trials are certainly a fine example of how to put people off a message! No, I don't support people behaving like that. Doesn't change my response about spreading.

bananapear 5y ago

Relevant Brass Eye clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3xUjw2BCYE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3xUjw2BCYE

youerbt 5y ago

> it's just something shitty that happens to you So you ask for people to accept some hardships in life, but somehow make a big deal with putting mask on your face from time to time?

BoxOfRain 5y ago
Where did I say that? It's literally this ridiculous jumping down people's throat the second they mention anything slightly negative about 'COVID culture' that I'm criticising.

EForEndeavour 5y ago

> regardless of how much merit those norms actually have Isn't that the whole point? Persecuting a neighbour as a witch has no merit. Limiting contact with your neighbour as a pandemic restriction does. > One social impact of the pandemic is that nobody can mind their own damn business any more If "mind their own damn business" means "go about daily life as if there weren't a global pandemic" then yes, this is indeed an expected impact of public health crises.

johnchristopher 5y ago

Okay boomer, we heard you, now please put your mask on when riding public transport, thank you :-).

crtasm 5y ago

You can't catch something without someone else spreading it. Please wear a mask to lower the chance of covid infections and help out the society you live in.

BoxOfRain 5y ago
I literally only brought up masks in the context of people harassing strangers in public about them, from the responses I'm getting here you'd think I'd posted some sort of anti-mask polemic. It's not masks I was criticising, I'm criticising the kind of profoundly obnoxious person who goes up to strangers in public to shriek at them about masks and then acts like a victim when they (quite reasonably) are told to mind their own business. It's never acceptable to harrass people in public like that regardless of how scared you are of COVID in my opinion. Do people really struggle to understand why acting like that particularly unpleasant brand of judgemental Puritan evangelist might put people off from their message? It's like any discussion around COVID has to come packaged with buckets of tedious moralising or it automatically gets dismissed as conspiratorial.
- crtasm 5y ago
  > might put people off from their message? your posts here that begin with a comparison to supporting witch trials are certainly a fine example of how to put people off a message! No, I don't support people behaving like that. Doesn't change my response about spreading.