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This may sound like fun, but there's some evidence that the parachute analogy has been massively overused: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29343497/ https://pub
by hannob 5y ago
This may sound like fun, but there's some evidence that the parachute analogy has been massively overused:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29343497/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29343497/
Like the idea here is that there are some interventions that are so obvious that you don't need rigorous evidence to show they work. However as it turns out people use that analogy to justify interventions that did later turn out to not work.
- refurb 5y agoI’m too lazy to search for it, but there was an organization that collected the top “stop doing these things in medicine because they don’t work”. The polled the major medical societies to put them together. Ranges from emergency medicine to gynecology. I think most people would be shocked to learn: 1) how many “obvious” interventions don’t work and 2) how common they are in today’s medical practice.
- throwaway934876 5y agoAnd 3, how many people are utterly convinced they DO work. Like with homeopathy.
- steeleduncan 5y agoI'm not sure I'd classify drinking and incredibly dilute version of the poison you have just ingested to cure you of that poison as an obvious intervention that doesn't work. It seems more of an obviously useless thing to do that doesn't work.
- votepaunchy 5y agoIsn’t homeopathy just a way to sell the placebo effect, for which we have ample supporting evidence as the basis for medical studies?
- drekk 5y agoThey sell placebos without you needing to give money to quacks practicing 18th century pseudoscience
- throwaway934876 5y agoI fully agree, yet here I am with many friends that swear their kids stop having gum aches after applying some stuff that contains 0.5 molecules per tube of whatever. I tell them it could be their attention, the actual rubbing, just the fact that the kid thinks he's being helped. Yet none of them is up for rubbing the kids with water in a double blind way and making structured notes of the effects. "It obviously helps, everybody happy". Yeah, especially the manufacturer of said half molecule*. (* I get that it means there is just 1 molecule in every 2nd tube, or more likely some tubes have 0, some 1, some 2, some 3, we have to take counting statistics into account.)
- joshspankit 5y agoLSD’s dose is 100 micro grams, and that’s enough for significant effects. I’m not saying homeopathy is valid, I’m just saying the it’s hubris to dismiss low dosages as meaningless.
- throwaway934876 5y agoLow doses in homeopathy are indicated by a p nummer, like p13, meaning 10 times diluted, 13 times. Which brings it into individual molecules per tube territory.
- mhcolburn 5y agoFunny story related to this: My son, who was in training to become an EMT, came to me one day concerned that my wife had several small bottles of aromatherapy (potions?, tinctures?) on her desk. He was deeply concerned that "she believed in that stuff" and felt that we needed to stage an intervention. I assured him that I doubted that she believed they had any therapeutic value, but that I would talk to her about it. Turns out, they were sent by an acquaintance of hers who was sending out free samples to everyone she knew hoping to drum up sales for her business. My wife was going to throw them out, but wanted to look up how to "properly dispose of the contents" and rinse out the bottles before recycling them. I just laughed: dumping the contents down the drain would likely be no different than washing them--other than saving water and time.
- errcorrectcode 5y agoAlso: MMS, "cleanses", crystals, sonic pest defenders, fuel efficiency devices, zero point energy generators, perpetual motion machines, and magic laundry balls. <-- That's the abbreviated list.
- throw0101a 5y agoI will have you know that since I got my tiger-repelling rock I have not been attacked by tigers… * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw
- errcorrectcode 5y agoBut do they repel llamas and killer rabbits? If not, I'll wait for v2.
- shabble 5y agoCochrane Reviews? https://www.cochranelibrary.com/about/about-cochrane-reviews https://www.cochranelibrary.com/about/about-cochrane-reviews
- refurb 5y agoHmmm… it may have come from Cochrane, but I don’t think so. They were a collection of two page PDFs with nice formatting and all. Made it easy for any physician to see just how extensive the issue was beyond their own specialty. But maybe Cochrane drove the initiative? The lists definitely came from the respective medical societies. Now I have a urge to try and find it again.