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It already came and half went. It was represented by Donald Trump, the rise of the right in Europe and the alignment of Russia and China for short term push ba

It already came and half went. It was represented by Donald Trump, the rise of the right in Europe and the alignment of Russia and China for short term push back on the west. DT would never have been elected if _any_ of the architects of the GFC had gone to jail. Imho that was Obama’s biggest mistake. Bailouts could be justifiable and understood by the population, no one going to jail was a betrayal. It caused a tipping point in the erosion of trust in the established political class and in the American democracy. The vitriol directed against Hilary was a symptom of that distrust

unionpivo 5y ago
nah this are just precursors of the real thing, whatever it will be. People are sick of status quo. That's why more and more are willing to try anything that will shake things up.
knowaveragejoe 5y ago
I'm surprised to find this level of shallow take on HN. No, the rise of the populist right is not the natural reaction, it's just was convenient at the time for various plutocrats to direct energy towards. If that dog caught the metaphorical car, it wouldn't result in an outcome any reasonable person would agree with.
JohnWhigham 5y ago
It already came and half went. Yup, and the worse part? Nothing changed. Trump didn't didn't do a single fucking thing of material value to ameliorate the positions of those who voted for him, or the middle class for that matter. And yet he's almost sure to win again in 2024. I think in an astonishingly short amount of time, people in the West forgot what revolution is.
- lelanthran 5y ago
  > And yet he's almost sure to win again in 2024. Wait, what? He's running again?
  - NoGravitas 5y ago
    He hasn't declared yet, but that's mainly only because being a declared candidate would put restrictions on how he can fundraise and what he can spend those funds on. He'll either run, or he'll anoint a successor and guarantee them a primary win.

unionpivo 5y ago

nah this are just precursors of the real thing, whatever it will be. People are sick of status quo. That's why more and more are willing to try anything that will shake things up.

knowaveragejoe 5y ago

I'm surprised to find this level of shallow take on HN. No, the rise of the populist right is not the natural reaction, it's just was convenient at the time for various plutocrats to direct energy towards. If that dog caught the metaphorical car, it wouldn't result in an outcome any reasonable person would agree with.

JohnWhigham 5y ago

It already came and half went. Yup, and the worse part? Nothing changed. Trump didn't didn't do a single fucking thing of material value to ameliorate the positions of those who voted for him, or the middle class for that matter. And yet he's almost sure to win again in 2024. I think in an astonishingly short amount of time, people in the West forgot what revolution is.

lelanthran 5y ago
> And yet he's almost sure to win again in 2024. Wait, what? He's running again?
- NoGravitas 5y ago
  He hasn't declared yet, but that's mainly only because being a declared candidate would put restrictions on how he can fundraise and what he can spend those funds on. He'll either run, or he'll anoint a successor and guarantee them a primary win.