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The problem union advocates in America have is whenever things don't go their way, they immediately resort to calling the workers idiots. The workers aren't id
by BrazzVuvuzela 5y ago
The problem union advocates in America have is whenever things don't go their way, they immediately resort to calling the workers idiots. The workers aren't idiots. When they perceive that unions aren't listening to them, it's usually because that's true. The union corruption and contempt for workers is the cause, not the consequence, of workers giving up on unions.
- sofixa 5y agoBut union heads are elected by union members, aka workers. If the latter consider the former to be corrupt, they have the power to change that.
- BrazzVuvuzela 5y agoVoting in a union like the teamsters might as well be pissing into the wind. The ability of any individual worker to change the way things work is academic at best, particularly in the big unions. Practically speaking, the most choice a worker has is to vote against the union in their shop, since their shop is much smaller than the union itself. Suppose you've got a shop with a hundred workers, and a union representing a million workers wants you to join. In the initial vote of whether or not to join, each worker has a hundredth of the decision making power. After they join, each worker only has one millionth of the decision making power. The only meaningful choice is whether or not to join that union; after you join you're going along for the ride with no real input into it.
- tehjoker 5y agolol what do you think the bosses do when things don't go their way?
- BrazzVuvuzela 5y agoGet a union and now you have twice as much of that, contempt from your boss and the union. Flagging for disagreement? Nice. Shit like this only makes me dislike unions and their advocates even more. When arguments don't go their way and their tactic of insulting people has already been called out, they resort to silencing tactics. Unfortunate for you that you don't know where I live, so the old classic of "brick through your livingroom window" isn't an option for you!