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you would really be okay with your employer monitoring mouse movement, and using that as a metric to determine if you are working or not?

perl4ever 5y ago
This seems to be part of Microsoft Teams.
- slimsag 5y ago
  Really? And people here are okay with this?
  - perl4ever 5y ago
    I mean, I'm not aware of centralized tools built in to Teams that are used to systematically evaluate people, and if they exist, I wouldn't necessarily expect they are being exploited by my organization. What I was referring to was simply that there is a little color coded status symbol by a person's chat icon, which is green if they are active, and turns yellow if they are not doing much. However, if you have a meeting or appointment on your calendar, or you are presenting/videoconferencing it goes to red, so you really don't have to be green or yellow any more than you want to.
    - justinlloyd 5y ago
      >I'm not aware of centralized tools built in to Teams that are used to systematically evaluate people, Oh boy are you wrong.
      - perl4ever 5y ago
        I'm not wrong about my own awareness. I think I recall threads on HN about such things existing. But I'm not aware of how to use them or that my organization is using them. It wouldn't shock me if they were, but my prior is no more than 50%. I observe that people around me usually don't use 99.9% or more of Microsoft software features.
        justinlloyd 5y ago
        Technically you are correct about your awareness. My apologies. But in context, MS Teams has extensive dashboard analytics, some of it promoted under the guise of "employee wellness" but mostly used for command and control and monitoring, and there are several addons that add even more extensive tracking and analytics, e.g. ActivTrak.
- brazzledazzle 5y ago
  I think that’s used to determine your online status rather than a centrally tracked metric. But it’s fair to say that your status is watched by some managers with nothing better to do.
willcipriano 5y ago
"And it is all because of that mouse. You see, Steinbrenner is like the first guy in, at the crack of dawn. He sees my mouse moving, he figures I'm the first guy in. Then, the last person to leave is Wilhelm. He sees my mouse moving, he figures I'm burning the midnight oil. Between the two of them, they think I'm working an 18 hour day!"[0] - George Costanza [0]https://www.amazon.com/CRU-30200-0100-0011-WiebeTech-Mouse-Jiggler/dp/B000O3S0PK https://www.amazon.com/CRU-30200-0100-0011-WiebeTech-Mouse-J...

perl4ever 5y ago

This seems to be part of Microsoft Teams.

slimsag 5y ago
Really? And people here are okay with this?
- perl4ever 5y ago
  I mean, I'm not aware of centralized tools built in to Teams that are used to systematically evaluate people, and if they exist, I wouldn't necessarily expect they are being exploited by my organization. What I was referring to was simply that there is a little color coded status symbol by a person's chat icon, which is green if they are active, and turns yellow if they are not doing much. However, if you have a meeting or appointment on your calendar, or you are presenting/videoconferencing it goes to red, so you really don't have to be green or yellow any more than you want to.
  - justinlloyd 5y ago
    >I'm not aware of centralized tools built in to Teams that are used to systematically evaluate people, Oh boy are you wrong.
    - perl4ever 5y ago
      I'm not wrong about my own awareness. I think I recall threads on HN about such things existing. But I'm not aware of how to use them or that my organization is using them. It wouldn't shock me if they were, but my prior is no more than 50%. I observe that people around me usually don't use 99.9% or more of Microsoft software features.
      - justinlloyd 5y ago
        Technically you are correct about your awareness. My apologies. But in context, MS Teams has extensive dashboard analytics, some of it promoted under the guise of "employee wellness" but mostly used for command and control and monitoring, and there are several addons that add even more extensive tracking and analytics, e.g. ActivTrak.
brazzledazzle 5y ago
I think that’s used to determine your online status rather than a centrally tracked metric. But it’s fair to say that your status is watched by some managers with nothing better to do.

willcipriano 5y ago

"And it is all because of that mouse. You see, Steinbrenner is like the first guy in, at the crack of dawn. He sees my mouse moving, he figures I'm the first guy in. Then, the last person to leave is Wilhelm. He sees my mouse moving, he figures I'm burning the midnight oil. Between the two of them, they think I'm working an 18 hour day!"[0] - George Costanza [0]https://www.amazon.com/CRU-30200-0100-0011-WiebeTech-Mouse-Jiggler/dp/B000O3S0PK https://www.amazon.com/CRU-30200-0100-0011-WiebeTech-Mouse-J...