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As a business owner, I am absolutely furious at the suggestion to have the government clamp down on my ability to yank products retroactively, modify user licen

As a business owner, I am absolutely furious at the suggestion to have the government clamp down on my ability to yank products retroactively, modify user license agreements, and experiment with product pricing and feature availability. If users find a better match for their needs elsewhere, they are free to leave (after fulfilling the terms of the contracts they agreed to, of course). Don't screw with entrepreneurs!

cercatrova 5y ago
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not
- legerdemain 5y ago
  Chi cerca, trova?
  - cercatrova 5y ago
    Ah I remember your username, you were the one arguing that students shouldn't learn anything except mathematics. Anyway, I find your comment sarcastic because it seems that HN doesn't like people who want to modify terms of service willy nilly, just like I found your math only education comment sarcastic as well. I agree with your pricing comment though, creators should be able to experiment with different pricing models.
t0mas88 5y ago
You're free to experiment with pricing, just not to weasel out of an already closed deal and then increase the price. Markets need some rules to protect the weaker players so they all feel like participanting. It's in everyone's interest. If you make it "use whatever force you want if you're the stronger player" the market will be less functional and many players will no longer participate. The US doesn't have many of the European consumer protection rules. As an alternative everyone uses a credit card to get some of those protections back. The downside is high creditcard fees going to the payment networks and Visa etc getting to decide who can do business and who can't. I personally prefer the other system where the law creates those protections instead.
- legerdemain 5y ago
  The Market is a naturally arising phenomenon. Interfering in it by burdening it with regulations to "protect the weaker players" makes it literally more distorted and less functional.
  - CogitoCogito 5y ago
    Do you support the government enforcing business contracts at all? That is after all certainly an artificial distortion of naturally arising markets.
  - malermeister 5y ago
    You just made a bunch of assertions with no proof to back it up whatsoever. That's not an argument.
  - netizen-936824 5y ago
    The "weaker players" are individual consumers and they do need protection from corporations that deceive and pollute the environment Its obvious that corporations will put profit above all else including the health of their customers
    - legerdemain 5y ago
      The job of a company is to make money, not to protect your health. In the case of a doctor's office or hospital, protecting your health is a side effect of making money, because the way they can make money most efficiently is by having you pay them to protect your health. This is an elementary precept of modern economics (Friedman, et al.).
      - NoahKAndrews 5y ago
        That's exactly why we need governments to keep companies in check.
        5y ago

cercatrova 5y ago

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not

legerdemain 5y ago
Chi cerca, trova?
- cercatrova 5y ago
  Ah I remember your username, you were the one arguing that students shouldn't learn anything except mathematics. Anyway, I find your comment sarcastic because it seems that HN doesn't like people who want to modify terms of service willy nilly, just like I found your math only education comment sarcastic as well. I agree with your pricing comment though, creators should be able to experiment with different pricing models.

t0mas88 5y ago

You're free to experiment with pricing, just not to weasel out of an already closed deal and then increase the price. Markets need some rules to protect the weaker players so they all feel like participanting. It's in everyone's interest. If you make it "use whatever force you want if you're the stronger player" the market will be less functional and many players will no longer participate. The US doesn't have many of the European consumer protection rules. As an alternative everyone uses a credit card to get some of those protections back. The downside is high creditcard fees going to the payment networks and Visa etc getting to decide who can do business and who can't. I personally prefer the other system where the law creates those protections instead.

legerdemain 5y ago
The Market is a naturally arising phenomenon. Interfering in it by burdening it with regulations to "protect the weaker players" makes it literally more distorted and less functional.
- CogitoCogito 5y ago
  Do you support the government enforcing business contracts at all? That is after all certainly an artificial distortion of naturally arising markets.
- malermeister 5y ago
  You just made a bunch of assertions with no proof to back it up whatsoever. That's not an argument.
- netizen-936824 5y ago
  The "weaker players" are individual consumers and they do need protection from corporations that deceive and pollute the environment Its obvious that corporations will put profit above all else including the health of their customers
  - legerdemain 5y ago
    The job of a company is to make money, not to protect your health. In the case of a doctor's office or hospital, protecting your health is a side effect of making money, because the way they can make money most efficiently is by having you pay them to protect your health. This is an elementary precept of modern economics (Friedman, et al.).
    - NoahKAndrews 5y ago
      That's exactly why we need governments to keep companies in check.
      - 5y ago