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It's their intent to not give a clear picture. The only way they'll do so is in a court of law. The whole saga is pretty sickening from all ends. The cops shou

It's their intent to not give a clear picture. The only way they'll do so is in a court of law. The whole saga is pretty sickening from all ends. The cops should've never let Apple employees search his home and the cops should've identified these people searching his home as not being cops. This guy has at least some relation to the theft because they tracked it back to his house. If he didn't take it then he most likely knows who did.

meatsock 15y ago
it seems to me that someone who knew what they were stealing would have an incentive to have the trail point to anyone other than themselves.
- technoslut 15y ago
  You're taking it from the point of view as someone who posts on Hacker News that knows a lot about tech. At some point, not too soon after the theft took place, that prototype was in that house. Since Apple hasn't been able to track it since, the logical conclusion is that whoever stole it became aware that it can be tracked and turned the phone off. The story that you're creating only exists in movies. Only someone as devious as Keyser Söze would do that.
  - bugsy 15y ago
    "At some point, not too soon after the theft took place, that prototype was in that house." You have absolutely no proof of that. If you do please link to it. Statements from Apple goons aren't evidence. I could state that you are a terrorist pedophile so we should search your house for child porn and bombs. That doesn't make you one unless there is actual evidence shown to a judge in order to get a search warrant.
    - technoslut 15y ago
      I have the same news which you are basing your own assumptions on. Apple didn't search his house for no apparent reason. Do you really believe that the GPS and cellular triangulation they were using were wrong? This is the same as Homeland Security are using to capture terrorists. I'm not arguing this on a legal basis. I will leave this up to the courts. I grew up on the streets and, while I may not have stolen something in my youth, I can tell you I would've been the guy to tell him to shut the phone off. There is this belief among many of the absolute of good and evil. Most times this is not the case. It's always complicated and not always clear. If you disagree, please explain the reason why anyone was there in the first place.
      - meatsock 15y ago
        they had evidence pointing to a location. this does not mean the resident of the nearest house is culpable. perhaps the thief was walking by at the time. theres a lot of leeway I feel you may be overlooking.
bugsy 15y ago
"This guy has at least some relation to the theft" Not so, that is not known yet. Is the civilian GPS resolution sufficient to hit exactly one house? Does it ever give errors? How long was the signal at this house? When? When did the signal stop transmitting? Has anyone been to his house within the last week? How about in the general area? Meter readers? Deliverymen? Sure, he was at the business where the Apple employee got drunk and left the phone behind. Just like thousands of other people in that time frame, many of which undoubtedly are from his neighborhood or passed through at some point.

meatsock 15y ago

it seems to me that someone who knew what they were stealing would have an incentive to have the trail point to anyone other than themselves.

technoslut 15y ago
You're taking it from the point of view as someone who posts on Hacker News that knows a lot about tech. At some point, not too soon after the theft took place, that prototype was in that house. Since Apple hasn't been able to track it since, the logical conclusion is that whoever stole it became aware that it can be tracked and turned the phone off. The story that you're creating only exists in movies. Only someone as devious as Keyser Söze would do that.
- bugsy 15y ago
  "At some point, not too soon after the theft took place, that prototype was in that house." You have absolutely no proof of that. If you do please link to it. Statements from Apple goons aren't evidence. I could state that you are a terrorist pedophile so we should search your house for child porn and bombs. That doesn't make you one unless there is actual evidence shown to a judge in order to get a search warrant.
  - technoslut 15y ago
    I have the same news which you are basing your own assumptions on. Apple didn't search his house for no apparent reason. Do you really believe that the GPS and cellular triangulation they were using were wrong? This is the same as Homeland Security are using to capture terrorists. I'm not arguing this on a legal basis. I will leave this up to the courts. I grew up on the streets and, while I may not have stolen something in my youth, I can tell you I would've been the guy to tell him to shut the phone off. There is this belief among many of the absolute of good and evil. Most times this is not the case. It's always complicated and not always clear. If you disagree, please explain the reason why anyone was there in the first place.
    - meatsock 15y ago
      they had evidence pointing to a location. this does not mean the resident of the nearest house is culpable. perhaps the thief was walking by at the time. theres a lot of leeway I feel you may be overlooking.

bugsy 15y ago

"This guy has at least some relation to the theft" Not so, that is not known yet. Is the civilian GPS resolution sufficient to hit exactly one house? Does it ever give errors? How long was the signal at this house? When? When did the signal stop transmitting? Has anyone been to his house within the last week? How about in the general area? Meter readers? Deliverymen? Sure, he was at the business where the Apple employee got drunk and left the phone behind. Just like thousands of other people in that time frame, many of which undoubtedly are from his neighborhood or passed through at some point.