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Oh come on. Have you seen the people who have primaried her? While their politics may or may not be better, they have been problematic personal and professional

Oh come on. Have you seen the people who have primaried her? While their politics may or may not be better, they have been problematic personal and professional lives.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> Have you seen the people who have primaried her? “Primaried” usually refers to opposing in a partisan primary (as a way of distinguishing those people from other electors opponents.) California has for some time not used partisan primaries except as part of the Presidential nominating process.
- jdavis703 5y ago
  Non-partisan primaries in the inner Bay Area are usually Dem vs. Dem. For all intents and purposes they are effectively partisan (ignoring the bad blood between “moderate” Dems and self-styled “progressives”), with Republicans relegated as essentially a distant third party.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > Non-partisan primaries in the inner Bay Area are usually Dem vs. Dem. No, they aren't, they universally include numerous parties and independents, including Republicans, as well as Democrats. They general election after the top-two nonpartisan primary is sometimes Dem v. Dem, though that’s only happened in exactly one (2020) of Pelosi’s five elections since the top-two nonpartisan primary was adopted, so even if you meant the general rather than the primary, “usually” is far misplaced.
    - jdavis703 5y ago
      The last primary we had for an empty seat was something like 4 Dems, 1 Republican and some other third party. The Republican didn’t really even show up to various debates and round tables.
      - dragonwriter 5y ago
        > The last primary we had for an empty seat was something like 4 Dems, 1 Republican and some other third party I’m not sure which seat and which election you are talking about, but that would be consistent with the Republican strategy of trying to discourage more candidates from running, because that way vote splitting worms in their favor, maximizing their chance of making it into the top 2 and maximizing their perceived strength going into the general. Party leaders have been fairly open about their strategy of dealing with the top-two primary system. > The Republican didn’t really even show up to various debates and round tables. That's also a pretty common Republican strategy where there would be more than two candidates on the stage in California, on the theory (which has some support) that the hits coming out of such a forum will be on the candidates involved.

Oh come on. Have you seen the people who have primaried her? While their politics may or may not be better, they have been problematic personal and professional lives.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> Have you seen the people who have primaried her? “Primaried” usually refers to opposing in a partisan primary (as a way of distinguishing those people from other electors opponents.) California has for some time not used partisan primaries except as part of the Presidential nominating process.

jdavis703 5y ago
Non-partisan primaries in the inner Bay Area are usually Dem vs. Dem. For all intents and purposes they are effectively partisan (ignoring the bad blood between “moderate” Dems and self-styled “progressives”), with Republicans relegated as essentially a distant third party.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > Non-partisan primaries in the inner Bay Area are usually Dem vs. Dem. No, they aren't, they universally include numerous parties and independents, including Republicans, as well as Democrats. They general election after the top-two nonpartisan primary is sometimes Dem v. Dem, though that’s only happened in exactly one (2020) of Pelosi’s five elections since the top-two nonpartisan primary was adopted, so even if you meant the general rather than the primary, “usually” is far misplaced.
  - jdavis703 5y ago
    The last primary we had for an empty seat was something like 4 Dems, 1 Republican and some other third party. The Republican didn’t really even show up to various debates and round tables.
    - dragonwriter 5y ago
      > The last primary we had for an empty seat was something like 4 Dems, 1 Republican and some other third party I’m not sure which seat and which election you are talking about, but that would be consistent with the Republican strategy of trying to discourage more candidates from running, because that way vote splitting worms in their favor, maximizing their chance of making it into the top 2 and maximizing their perceived strength going into the general. Party leaders have been fairly open about their strategy of dealing with the top-two primary system. > The Republican didn’t really even show up to various debates and round tables. That's also a pretty common Republican strategy where there would be more than two candidates on the stage in California, on the theory (which has some support) that the hits coming out of such a forum will be on the candidates involved.