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> A massage isn't sex What is sex? What is lust? (The questions are rhetorical, but the point is that these terms tend to be defined in ways the exclude lots o
by throwawaygh 5y ago
> A massage isn't sex
What is sex? What is lust? (The questions are rhetorical, but the point is that these terms tend to be defined in ways the exclude lots of queer foreplay.)
But, yes, a massage where both people understand the energy is building toward/from sexual stimulation is definitely part of sex. Foreplay is part of sex. I can't think of any definition of sex that excludes foreplay and that is, for the purposes of this conversation, useful.
If "women don't want sex", but we define sex as functionally equivalent to "someone's genitals are touching another person", well... idk. Maybe women just don't want really shitty no foreplay sex? Surprise, surprise, right?
> For what it's worth, I'm a bisexual man who's had multiple relationships with both men and women
Ditto and opposite experience. It's almost like people are different enough that gender-based generalizations are almost entirely unhelpful.
- scarmig 5y ago>> For what it's worth, I'm a bisexual man who's had multiple relationships with both men and women > Ditto and opposite experience. It's almost like people are different enough that gender-based generalizations are almost entirely unhelpful. Gonna call bullshit on that, considering you think the average gay man's sex life is a couple blowjobs per week.
- throwawaygh 5y agoMy original post says a couple blowjobs "per day", not "per week". I'm confused. If anything, I'd expect you to call bullshit because that number is too high (it was meant to be hyperbolic). But you also willfully misread my other comment, so shrugs.