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Prices show that people in the US have a goal of living lower-footprint lifestyles in walkable urban areas. We can't always get what we want. But which goals a
by closeparen 5y ago
Prices show that people in the US have a goal of living lower-footprint lifestyles in walkable urban areas.
We can't always get what we want. But which goals are attainable depends on policy choices.
- glitchc 5y agoThey very much show the opposite over the past couple of years, ever since the pandemic. Housing prices in suburban and rural areas have exploded across North America. People seem to want their own slice of land distant from others.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoAlso, the most popular vehicles are pick up trucks.
- closeparen 5y agoOn the margins, sure, there suburbs are gaining a little relative to the city. On the whole, though, cities are vastly more in demand than suburbs.
- refurb 5y agoDisagree strongly. Just look at suburb housing prices in the Bay Area versus within SF itself. People want to be close to cities, but if it means giving up a single family home they’ll gladly live in the suburbs.
- closeparen 5y agoWhere are you seeing this? San Francisco condos run $1077/sqft, more than the most expensive county for single family homes, San Mateo, at $1022/sqft. Correspondingly the price per square foot in Manhattan is about $1300, while Queens and Staten Island run not even half that. People may choose to put the savings from less desirable environments into larger homes. But there’s no reason condos shouldn’t be as large as houses. Urban environments are just so scarce that the only way even pretty rich people can get them is to compromise on space. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1234783/average-sales-price-of-condos-and-single-family-homes-san-francisco-districts-per-square-foot/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1234783/average-sales-pr...
- rhacker 5y agoYou're definitely in a filter bubble.
- closeparen 5y agoI recognize it's a filter bubble that talks about these things a lot on the internet, but $1000+/sqft for NY and SF condos aren't lying. People want these things, badly.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoI suspect many of the people who want those $1k/sq ft condos in NYC and SF would not appreciate a fossil fuel tax sufficiently high to curb air travel such that even annual vacations to tropical destinations are not possible.
- closeparen 5y agoTravel habits seem much easier to change than the built environment.
- ZeroGravitas 5y agoThe point of a carbon tax isn't to ban things, but to redirect spending to more efficient uses, even people who like foreign holidays come out ahead as the greater efficiency is a net gain.
- refurb 5y agoWhat’s the percent of population living in those condos? 99% of Americans don’t live there.
- closeparen 5y agoJudging by the prices, they would like to, and they would if you made enough of them.
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