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> The “I have no sympathy for the victims” comments are crass. No, they're not. They're entirely reasonable. Stop trying to shame people for expressing a commo

by mdoms 5y ago

> The “I have no sympathy for the victims” comments are crass. No, they're not. They're entirely reasonable. Stop trying to shame people for expressing a common, reasonable and fair opinion that you don't like.

jakeva 5y ago
But shaming victims is acceptable?
- this_user 5y ago
  They are only victims of their own greed and ignorance. It's like ending up in the hospital because you chose not to get vaccinated against COVID: People have been trying to warn you for years, but you wouldn't listen, and now you are paying the price.
damidekronik 5y ago
Since when scamming is something we should be ok with?
- mdoms 5y ago
  100% of Crypto "investors" are speculators looking for a quick buck by investing in a system that is pumping needlessly huge amount of carbon into the atmosphere. They're not well-meaning victims who stumbled into the bad part of town, they are greedy thoughtless people in search of free money.
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  - zepto 5y ago
    I think that’s unfair. They may be in search of outsized returns, but I think people can absolutely be victims of the ‘have fun staying poor’ meme. The implication is that if you don’t buy into crypto your assets will be decimated by inflation. I think it’s reasonable to consider that it’s not ‘greed’ but rather fear of being left behind that is driving many victims.
  - tromp 5y ago
    These rug-pull scams rely on the developers having tons of tokens to sell to investors, which is mostly confined to use of Proof of Stake. So your environmental criticism of Proof of Work is not applicable here. A PoW coin with no premine doesn't allow for a rug pull.
    - optimalsolver 5y ago
      What are some notable proof-of-work tokens that didn't have a premine?
mraudiobook_com 5y ago
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ziddoap 5y ago
>Stop trying to shame people for expressing a common, reasonable and fair opinion that you don't like. I realize the dangers of posting something remotely pro-crypto on HN, but I have to say this is a pretty rich comment. Shame is all that is doled out to the many people who have reasonable and fair opinions about cryptocurrency that you don't like (such as thinking some cryptocurrencies are reasonable or worth speculating over).
- bena 5y ago
  Really? I see a lot of pro-crypto statements on here as well. If anything, I'd say the corner is turning and the previously pro-crypto HN is just now becoming more anti-crypto.
donkarma 5y ago
yes i'll be sure to have no sympathy for your grandmother the next time she gets robbed by scammers
JumpCrisscross 5y ago
> They're entirely reasonable I agree. They are not unreasonable. They are crass. If a child is told not to touch a stove and then burns herself, I may consider them stupid, but I can still have sympathy for the pain they are experiencing.

by mdoms 5y ago

jakeva 5y ago

But shaming victims is acceptable?

this_user 5y ago
They are only victims of their own greed and ignorance. It's like ending up in the hospital because you chose not to get vaccinated against COVID: People have been trying to warn you for years, but you wouldn't listen, and now you are paying the price.

damidekronik 5y ago

Since when scamming is something we should be ok with?

mdoms 5y ago
100% of Crypto "investors" are speculators looking for a quick buck by investing in a system that is pumping needlessly huge amount of carbon into the atmosphere. They're not well-meaning victims who stumbled into the bad part of town, they are greedy thoughtless people in search of free money.
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- zepto 5y ago
  I think that’s unfair. They may be in search of outsized returns, but I think people can absolutely be victims of the ‘have fun staying poor’ meme. The implication is that if you don’t buy into crypto your assets will be decimated by inflation. I think it’s reasonable to consider that it’s not ‘greed’ but rather fear of being left behind that is driving many victims.
- tromp 5y ago
  These rug-pull scams rely on the developers having tons of tokens to sell to investors, which is mostly confined to use of Proof of Stake. So your environmental criticism of Proof of Work is not applicable here. A PoW coin with no premine doesn't allow for a rug pull.
  - optimalsolver 5y ago
    What are some notable proof-of-work tokens that didn't have a premine?

mraudiobook_com 5y ago

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ziddoap 5y ago

>Stop trying to shame people for expressing a common, reasonable and fair opinion that you don't like. I realize the dangers of posting something remotely pro-crypto on HN, but I have to say this is a pretty rich comment. Shame is all that is doled out to the many people who have reasonable and fair opinions about cryptocurrency that you don't like (such as thinking some cryptocurrencies are reasonable or worth speculating over).

bena 5y ago
Really? I see a lot of pro-crypto statements on here as well. If anything, I'd say the corner is turning and the previously pro-crypto HN is just now becoming more anti-crypto.

donkarma 5y ago

yes i'll be sure to have no sympathy for your grandmother the next time she gets robbed by scammers

JumpCrisscross 5y ago

> They're entirely reasonable I agree. They are not unreasonable. They are crass. If a child is told not to touch a stove and then burns herself, I may consider them stupid, but I can still have sympathy for the pain they are experiencing.