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Hello Sideburns! I can't access your link it's pay-walled nor can I find a decent version on archive, but I'll take your word for it. 1. I should have clarifi

Hello Sideburns! I can't access your link it's pay-walled nor can I find a decent version on archive, but I'll take your word for it. 1. I should have clarified. By "old, unwell, infirm" I mean people over 50 Because of covids age skew in mortality and hospitalization, I'm not really worried about people under 50, nor is GP. The premise the GP is arguing is that "vaccinating young people is primarily good because it helps protect old people". 2. I'm not saying covid doesn't jump from young to old, I'm asking 2 questions: a. is "unvaccinated young-to-old transmission" a major vector for infection among >50s. b. by extension, does vaccinating young people correlate to a decrease in infections among >50s. I suspect it doesn't for the reasons I described in my prior comment, but of course I would like to see data that supports it one way or the other. If no one has done such an analysis yet, it begs the question why we're perpetuating such talking points and making policies without having the data first.

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago
> 1. I should have clarified. By "old, unwell, infirm" I mean people over 50 Nice of you to move the goalposts after the fact, but are over 50s completely isolated from schoolchildren, or are they merely 2 hops away? Are you saying that no-one over the age of 50 is a parent, carer or teacher for school age children? The progress of outbreaks since mass vaccination began has had a general observable trend: it first flares up in the youngest age groups, and then sooner or later spreads to all age groups.
- disambiguation 5y ago
  You're just a cheery person huh. I didn't move the goalposts, I corrected your strawman. You said 30-49 and completely ignored anyone else. Nice of you to hold yourself accountable, but feel free to project more. Again the questions is.. Does vaccinating young people correlate to a decrease in cases among >50s. Since we agree that vaccinating young people is mainly about protecting everyone else, I'd like to see data that proves it actually helps.

SideburnsOfDoom 5y ago

> 1. I should have clarified. By "old, unwell, infirm" I mean people over 50 Nice of you to move the goalposts after the fact, but are over 50s completely isolated from schoolchildren, or are they merely 2 hops away? Are you saying that no-one over the age of 50 is a parent, carer or teacher for school age children? The progress of outbreaks since mass vaccination began has had a general observable trend: it first flares up in the youngest age groups, and then sooner or later spreads to all age groups.

disambiguation 5y ago
You're just a cheery person huh. I didn't move the goalposts, I corrected your strawman. You said 30-49 and completely ignored anyone else. Nice of you to hold yourself accountable, but feel free to project more. Again the questions is.. Does vaccinating young people correlate to a decrease in cases among >50s. Since we agree that vaccinating young people is mainly about protecting everyone else, I'd like to see data that proves it actually helps.